Letter Re: The Depression of the 1930s–Why No Societal Collapse?

Hi Jim,
I really enjoyed reading your novel “Patriots”. I’ve read a few other books also, like “Lucifer’s Hammer” and I have to admit that they spurred me to buy a 22 LR [rimfire rifle] as a starter.

I’ve been doing a lot of thinking of our current situation in this country and it occurs to me that every generation has things going on that is very concerning. But in particular was thinking the Great Depression should have been a good example of things going to h*ll. Yet there was not this great meltdown where people needed to go to retreats and such. So I’m writing this e-mail to see if you’ve done any research to do comparisons with our [present-day] situation and the Great Depression situation to determine why the country did not collapse during that time period. Thanks, – Steve

JWR Replies: Thanks for raising that point. It is well worth discussing. There are some substantial differences between our society in the early 21st Century, and America in the 1930s. With these differences, our society is now much more fragile and vulnerable to collapse. Here are a few that come immediately to mind:

Consider the Attributes of America in the 1930s :

A largely agrarian and self-sufficient society. (Now, just 1% of the population operating farms and ranches feed the other 99%.)

Not heavily dependent on computing and communications, technology, grid power, and petroleum-based fuels.

Shorter chains of supply. Most food was grown within 100 miles of where people lived.

A very small underclass that was dependent on charity or public welfare.

Lower property tax rates and lower (or nonexistent) license fees, vehicle registration fees, et cetera.

The majority of workers lived near their work.

Most displaced workers were willing to accept lower-paying jobs–even doing hard physical labor.

The entire nation was economically self-sufficient and could carry on without many imports.

Far greater self-sufficiency at the household level (domestic water wells, windmills, wood burning stoves, home vegetable gardens, home canning, and so forth)

A much lower level of indebtedness (public and private). At the outset of the Depression most families had cash savings. (We are now a nation of debtors.)

A sound currency, still backed by specie. (Although FDR‘s administration seized most privately-held gold in 1933, the currency was at least still fully redeemable in silver coinage until 1964.)

Lower percentage of corporate employment–so there were less risk of huge layoffs that would devastate communities

A significantly more moral society that still had compunctions and a prevalently law-abiding attitude.

A homogeneous population that largely shared common Judeo-Christian values. A much larger portion of society attended church regularly

A simpler, less extravagant lifestyle, with tastes in cooking and entertainment that did not require large outlays of cash.

Most families owned only one car (with proportionately lower registration and insurance costs), and they lived in smaller homes that were less expensive to heat.

In summary, in the 1930s it cost a lot less to live (as a percentage of income) and people were willing, able, and accustomed to “making do” without. When people lost their jobs, in many cases they didn’t lose their homes because they were paid for. Many folks could simply revert to a self-sufficient lifestyle and earn enough with odd jobs to pay their property taxes. What fraction of

The bottom line: If America were to experience a Second Great Depression, given the high level of debt and systems dependence, there would be enormous rates of dislocation and homelessness. And with modern-day immorality and the prevalent “me first ” attitude, I have no doubt that riots and looting would absolutely explode.



Letter Re: How to Handle Real Estate Holdings in a Economic Depression

Sir:
If the global economy melts down and we experience a “greater depression” or worse. What is the best strategy for real estate that is already owned? I own a primary home and two rental properties in central Virginia but if the SHTF, I’m going to retreat along with numerous family members, to our farm about 25-30 miles from the nearest city. (It has hundreds of acres for growing, and has ample water, etc.)

I don’t have substantial equity in any of my three houses and all mortgages 30 year fixed through Bank of America. Is it worth continuing to try to pay on one or more of these? If the county is on the skids for several years and job loss is substantial, do you think there would be bank/government lack of mortgage payment forgiveness and allow people to resume payments if or when things returned to relative normalcy?

I’m pretty certain that I would leave remaining credit card debt unpaid. If the SHTF, a poor credit score would be least of my worries. Do you agree?

Any other thoughts on this topic would be greatly appreciated. I may be a little naive is assuming the USA will return to a state of normalcy but it is a very real part of my planning process. Or is there basically no chance of a return to normalcy after such an event? Thanks in advance, – Joe

JWR Replies: Anyone that has vacation, rental, or “investment” properties with mortgages attached should beware! A negative cash flow will be disastrous in an era of widespread corporate layoffs. Face facts: It is very likely that a recession or even a depression is just around the corner, and the collapse of real estate prices is likely to continue for several years. If you can break even or get out with a small loss, then I urgently recommend that you start selling property and don’t stop until until you have a solid positive cash flow. If you try to juggle too many mortgages, you may lose everything.

As I’ve said before, a total wipeout is unlikely. Far more likely is a straightforward Depression, perhaps inflationary, perhaps deflationary, but in any case nasty. Banks and civil governments will still function in all but an absolute worst case situation. That means that you will still have to meet your obligations for mortgage and property tax payments. Be ready for such times by getting out of debt!

If you are completely “upside down” in one or more mortgage, then think twice about just walking away, and mailing your banker “jingle mail.” Unless you are self-employed, I recommend that you do so only as a last resort. Keep in mind that credit scores are now part of the background checks that are now standard practice in the hiring process for many corporations. It would add insult to injury to ruin your chance of getting re-hired by wrecking your credit rating.



Letter Re: Salt and Other Key Items to Store for Barte

James-
I have a tip for my fellow SurvivalBlog readers on salt. Most anyone with a well will probably have a water softener, and as such will know that salt comes in large 20-50 pound bags. We get it for our softener for about $5.00 per 50 lb. bag. Be sure to check the label, and make sure that it is pure sodium chloride, (table salt). Others are Potassium Chloride, the “other” table salt. Watch out for the ones that have additives, of course. Being “rock salt” it’s got large crystals, but you can easily crush or grind it. It’s available at hardware stores and places like Ace, TruValue, Home Depot, Lowes, Agway, et cetera. Regards, – Rick D.



Odds ‘n Sods:

Reader “Bigbird” spotted this “must read” piece: In Europe, crisis revives old memories. Bigbird’s comment: “It looks like Americans aren’ t the only ones who practice survivalism.”

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Bob McC. mentioned this Piece at Fox News: Uses for $700B Bailout Money Keep Changing. Bob’s comment: “The clueless Congress just starting to discover that banksters lied! And they wondered why 3/4ths of American constituents opposed the plan!”

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Reader Currie M. sent us this link: The Baltic Dry Index (BDI) Plummeting. Currie’s comments: “I consider this an accurate representation of economic conditions, in real time. It seems to signal what other indicators take much longer to recognize. This BDI chart signals to me that the the world economy is grinding to a halt. The globalization bubble is deflating at a horrific pace. A ninety percent drop! Not only are there grave economic considerations to having world trade crash, but the recent rumors of banks not wanting to accept letters of credit from other previously trusted international bank partners is strengthened. Who wants to ship if they will not get paid? The entire world (not just the US or European) banking/financial system is tottering.”

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From our ever-reliable Economic Editor, Cheryl N. comes this news and commentary: The 1929 & 2007 Bear Market Race To The BottomNouriel Roubini: I fear the worst is yet to comeUS Joins UK On “Brink” Of RecessionGold Stocks Were Financial Saviors In The 1930sOctober: Monster Market Mash

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Susan Z. flagged this article by our friend Michael Panzner: ‘When the U.S. Sneezes, the Rest of the World…’ Yikes! This is starting to sound much more like an incipient depression rather than a recession.





Notes from JWR:

The high bid in the current SurvivalBlog Benefit Auction is now at $560. This auction is for a mixed lot that includes:

1.) A huge lot of DVDs, CD-ROMs and hard copy nuclear survival/self-sufficiency references (a $300+ value) donated by Richard Fleetwood of www.SurvivalCD.com

2.) A custom-made, fully-stocked EMS Medic Bag from Cajun Safety and Survival (a $212 retail value)

3.) A NukAlert radiation detector donated by at KI4U.com (a $160 retail value)

4.) A case (6 cans) of Mountain House freeze dried foods in #10 (96 ounce) cans donated by Ready Made Resources (a $160 value)

5.) An autographed copy of “Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse” ($24, retail)

See the SurvivalBlog Benefit Auction page for complete details on these items. This auction ends on November 15th. The opening bid is just $50. Please e-mail us your bid.

Today we present another Retreat Owner Profile, which will soon be added to the Profiles static page. BTW, we still have room for several more international profiles (outside the US). I am saving the last few slots in the US profiles section for people that have very unusual home/retreats. Perhaps someone that lives in an underground house or in a surplused missile silo? If you decide to e-mail us your Profile, please closely follow the same format used in the the others. For your privacy, be sure change enough details so that your neighbors won’t recognize you. (You can even change the locale to another state with a similar climate).



Retreat Owner Profile: Mr. Romeo

Retreat: Live-aboard 30-Foot Sailboat

Age: One male 34 years old

Background: Grew up in small town next to Vandenberg Air Force Base, watching missiles being launched and sometimes blown up [“flight terminated”] over the ocean. I always knew that seeing one missile being launched meant “test” and that two or more mean “imminent death”. Grew up with most “toys” being bought at army surplus stores. My brother and I were the only kids who when we played “war” dressed in full army gear, complete with combat boots, helmet with outer cloth cover stuffed with branches, belt with two canteens, belt back pack, shovel, ammo cases, full camo clothes…the list goes on and on.

I moved to a southern California harbor 40 miles from Santa Cruz Island about two years ago to be closer to work (and distance myself from the nuke magnet–Vandenberg AFB). I have been getting everything on the boat ship shape for last two years. I have also been buying survival gear suited for an ocean retreat WTSHTF.

Annual Income: Was $46,000 a year until I got laid off three months ago.

Investments: So far 30 grams Pamp Suisse bullion, survival gear, food stores

Present Home: 30 foot Catalina Sloop sailboat that was but in the 1970s. I have upgraded the rear stern rails to ones with incorporated rear seats, repaired both sails, replaced the lifelines, replaced all essential lighting with solar powered LED lighting and have kerosene backup lighting in every berth. I also have solar powered exterior lighting.

For entertainment I have an XPower solar power pack that will charge my Creative Zen and portable DVD player starting from dead batteries with a one day charge on the power pack. That gives me 3-4 hours of DVDs and 11-12 hours of MP3 music a day, every day [for pennies in the lifetime cost of the system]. I have spare new batteries for all three units in the boat. Since I live aboard I am tax exempt and only pay $45 USD every two years for craft registration. I also have to pay $20 USD once a year to have harbor patrol give me a live aboard safety inspection. Insurance is $400 a year.

Vehicles: I have a 2005 Tank Urban Sporty 150cc scooter made out of chineseum and a 1999 Honda civic LEV (low emissions vehicle), they cost about $120 USD a year for registration and about $600 a year to insure with the minimum required by law. The scooter gets about 60-to 80 mpg and the Civic gets 30-38 mpg but I mostly ride the scooter.

Firearms: Winchester 12 gauge semi auto with 300+ rounds of birdshot (also have bandoleer that holds 50 rounds). Compound bow and arrows. Flare gun and 10 flares. About 60 yards cheap floating rope. (This is a defensive weapon) to foul the props of any would be attacking boats Just cut it into 10 foot strips and throw into water. I also have a machete, an axe, a Blackie Collins design Gerber clip lock serrated knife as well as about 30 other (various) knives.

Gardens/Orchards/Food source: What’s the biggest highway in the world that is full of food? The ocean, it is also the biggest moat in the world.

Property Tax: None.

Communications: VHF radio handheld and onboard units for emergency use, cell phone for domestic calls.

Food Storage: 50 pounds of rice, large supply of canned ham, large supply of canned food, I have also stored a lot of extra salt and cooking oil onboard for bartering purposes. I have room to store 20 gallons water built into the boat and have room for about 50 more gallons in storage.

Fuel Storage: 20 gallon tank built into the boat, five gallon tank in the dinghy and 5-1 gallon tanks under the cockpit seats.

Survival gear: Propane barbeque with extra canisters of LP, PUR Survivor 06-LL Desalinator Watermaker, 400 count 65 mg potassium iodide tablets sealed in factory bottles, solar lighting inside and out, solar fan that I made that works day and night.

Two fishing poles and assorted fishing tackle, Sailrite lsz-1 sail and canvas sewing machine with heavy duty stainless steel hand crank for use offshore. And of course the assorted tools needed to keep the boat working.

Worst Case Scenario: Economic collapse, nuclear war, Waterworld, tsunami, civil unrest, corrupt government declaring martial law, you name it. I am just a power cord and four dock lines from New Zealand via Hawaii or Baja California to Mexico. The thin veneer that holds “civilized” society from becoming something like the Rodney King riots is not as thick as you might think. Like a castle with a large moat, like an island or an oil rig is how I plan to bug out. Since owning the sailboat I have traveled over 400 miles in five trips to the islands and in that time I’ve used perhaps one gallon of gas.
Blow ships are the cat’s meow when it comes to efficiency. Top sailing speed (so far) 9.4 knots under full main and 120% jib.

JWR’s Recommends: Increase your food storage! Buy as much as can possibly fit in the space available. You should also increase your solar charging capacity so that you can keep your deep cycle batteries (for VHF radio, navigation, and cell phone charging, et cetera) topped off, even without running your auxiliary engine.

For defense, first buy 50 rifled slugs and at least 100 buckshot 12 gauge shells (000 is the best pellet size for shipboard defense.) You should then add a scoped stainless steel .308 or .30-06 bolt action rifle for “stand-off” self defense against pirates. (A stainless steel Browning A-Bolt with a half dozen spare magazines would be ideal. Second choice would be a Winchester Model 70 Classic Stainless.) Buy at least 500 rounds of .30 caliber ammunition–a mix of AP, ball (FMJ), and soft nose. BTW, it is too bad that you can’t buy tracer ammo in California. If you lay down accurate fire with AP ammo at 450 yards, pirates will go find someone else to pick on! I also recommend that you add an intrusion detection system to your deck, to alert you if anyone attempts to board your sailboat when you are berthed or anchored at night. Also, if your budget allows, buy at least six large white parachute flares, so that you can engage targets with your rifle at night. And if you can afford it, also get a headset-type night vision monocular, such as an AN/PVS-7B. Get firearms and medical training as soon as you can afford them. (Low-cost training is available from the American Red Cross, the Appleseed Program, and the WRSA.)

Buy a spare membrane and any other key spare parts for your desalinator. I recommend that you get as much blue water sailing experience as possible Since you’ve been laid off, it could be a great opportunity. You might try networking to find a trans-pac yacht crew/security position. (Check Craig’s List and CrewFile.com for openings.)



Odds ‘n Sods:

Reader MGB recommended this brief but insightful page on outdoor survival: Survival Myths… Debunked

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Hawaiian K. sent us a link to a New York Times piece that made my blood boil. It is innocuously titled: So When Will Banks Give Loans? But it would have been better titled: Your Tax Dollars at Work: Expanding a Banking Empire. Read the article carefully. The banksters at JP Morgan Chase plan to spend $25 billion of gifted taxpayer dollars to fund acquisitions of smaller banks.

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I just heard that Ready Made Resources now has a small quantity of used water-tight Hardigg cases available, for just $39.95 plus shipping. These have great potential for caching guns in damp climate regions. These cases are full military specification, and highly recommended. Buy a few before they run out!

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I spotted this at The Drudge Report: Companies start competing for bailout money

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More from Cheryl: Congress: What Ben And Hank Aren’t Telling YouTaiwan Dumps Fannie & FreddieSurvival: Learn From Argentina’s CollapseThousands Of Hedge Funds On The Brink Of FailureCar Makers Slam On Brakes As Orders DropCitadel Admits 35% Dive In Hedge Fund Value



Jim’s Quote of the Day:

“Using a television without an appropriate licence is a criminal offence. Every day we catch an average of 1,200 people using a TV without a licence. There is no valid excuse for using a television and not having a TV Licence, but some people still try – sometimes with the most ridiculous stories ever heard. Our detection equipment will track down your TV. The fact that our enquiry officers are now so well equipped with the latest technology means that there is virtually no way to avoid detection.” – from the official website of the British Television Licensing Authority, May 2003



Notes from JWR:

The high bid in the current SurvivalBlog Benefit Auction is now at $560. This auction is for a mixed lot that includes:

1.) A huge lot of DVDs, CD-ROMs and hard copy nuclear survival/self-sufficiency references (a $300+ value) donated by Richard Fleetwood of www.SurvivalCD.com

2.) A custom-made, fully-stocked EMS Medic Bag from Cajun Safety and Survival (a $212 retail value)

3.) A NukAlert radiation detector donated by at KI4U.com (a $160 retail value)

4.) A case (6 cans) of Mountain House freeze dried foods in #10 (96 ounce) cans donated by Ready Made Resources (a $160 value)

5.) An autographed copy of “Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse” ($24, retail)

See the SurvivalBlog Benefit Auction page for complete details on these items. This auction ends on November 15th. The opening bid is just $50. Please e-mail us your bid.

Today, with permission, we present a guest editorial by Steve Saville of The Speculative Investor:



The Financial Crisis Will Soon Abate, But The Real Crisis Will Soon Begin, by Steve Saville

In an essay first published in 1969 and recently re-published, Murray Rothbard summarizes the causes and cures of economic depressions by drawing on the Business Cycle theory developed by the great Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises. Here’s an excerpt from this essay:

“Mises, then, pinpoints the blame for the cycle on inflationary bank credit expansion propelled by the intervention of government and its central bank. What does Mises say should be done, say by government, once the depression arrives? What is the governmental role in the cure of depression? In the first place, government must cease inflating as soon as possible. It is true that this will, inevitably, bring the inflationary boom abruptly to an end, and commence the inevitable recession or depression. But the longer the government waits for this, the worse the necessary readjustments will have to be. The sooner the depression-readjustment is gotten over with, the better.

This means, also, that the government must never try to prop up unsound business situations; it must never bail out or lend money to business firms in trouble. Doing this will simply prolong the agony and convert a sharp and quick depression phase into a lingering and chronic disease. The government must never try to prop up wage rates or prices of producers’ goods; doing so will prolong and delay indefinitely the completion of the depression-adjustment process; it will cause indefinite and prolonged depression and mass unemployment in the vital capital goods industries. The government must not try to inflate again, in order to get out of the depression. For even if this re-inflation succeeds, it will only sow greater trouble later on. The government must do nothing to encourage consumption, and it must not increase its own expenditures, for this will further increase the social consumption/investment ratio. In fact, cutting the government budget will improve the ratio. What the economy needs is not more consumption spending but more saving, in order to validate some of the excessive investments of the boom. [Emphasis added]

Thus, what the government should do, according to the Misesian analysis of the depression, is absolutely nothing. It should, from the point of view of economic health and ending the depression as quickly as possible, maintain a strict hands off, “laissez-faire” policy. Anything it does will delay and obstruct the adjustment process of the market; the less it does, the more rapidly will the market adjustment process do its work, and sound economic recovery ensue.”

Clearly, in response to the current financial crisis the US government — and most other governments, for that matter — is doing exactly what Mises and other great economists of the “Austrian School” claim should not be done. Specifically, the US government is trying to prop up unsound business situations; it is bailing out and lending money to business firms in trouble; it is attempting to prop up prices; it is trying to inflate again in order to boost the economy; and it is rapidly increasing its own expenditures.

The “Austrians” have considerable credibility because their basic theories have never been logically refuted and have been validated, time and time again, by real world occurrences. For example, in early 1929 the two leading Austrian economists of the day, Mises and Hayek, predicted that a great crash was about to occur. Mises, at the time, turned down a prestigious job with a bank because he foresaw a global banking crisis and did not want his name associated with any bank. After the crash the Austrians then warned that the large increases in spending and the various other government interventions implemented in order to stimulate the economy would turn a financial collapse into a very lengthy depression. They were again proven right. As an aside, it is often stated, as if it were a fact, that President Hoover employed a hands-off approach in response to the financial collapse of 1929-1932, thus sowing the seeds of the drawn-out depression that followed. However, nothing could be further from the truth. The fact is that Hoover was not a true believer in free markets and in response to the crash he ramped up the US Government’s involvement in the economy, so much so that during the 1932 Presidential election campaign Hoover was labeled a “spendthrift” by FDR, his opponent. Of course, the 16% increase in government indebtedness on Hoover’s watch during 1931-1932 now looks miserly compared to the 1,200% increase in Federal debt presided over by Roosevelt during 1933-1945, but at the time it was one of the largest peace-time increases ever.

There were many financial crises in the US prior to the 1930s. The main factor that differentiated the 1930s from earlier periods of crisis — the thing that transformed a financial collapse into an economic depression lasting more than a decade — was the government’s response to the crisis. Never before had the government tried so hard to fight the contraction by ramping up its own spending, and never before had the US economy performed so poorly. Strangely, most economists seem incapable of linking the dismal economic performance with the large increase in government intervention, and, as a result, most economists still think that increased government intervention and spending is the answer (although they often disagree on the details). The Japanese thought it was the answer during the 1990s, and thus managed to transform what should have been a sharp 1-3 year adjustment into a 10-15 year period of economic stagnation. And now it’s widely considered to be the appropriate response to the current woes in the US.

Given that it is being ‘egged on’ by high-profile economists, investors, hedge-fund managers, businessmen, journalists, television personalities, politicians and even newsletter writers of almost all stripes, it’s a virtual certainty that the US government will continue to ‘fight’ the current crisis by implementing inflationary policies and inserting itself ever-deeper into the fabric of the economy. In fact, it is now rare for a week to go by without the announcement of some new large-scale government intervention. This week’s main intervention — to date, anyway, but there are still three days left in the week — is the decision of the Fed/Treasury combination to provide an unlimited amount of short-term funding to non-financial companies via the Commercial Paper market.

The world’s financial markets are embroiled in a crisis of epic proportions, but with or without government ‘help’ the financial crisis will soon become less intense. Perhaps the many actions being taken by the government in an effort to ‘soften the blow’ will cause the immediate crisis to dissipate earlier than would otherwise be the case, but these actions will certainly do longer-term damage by siphoning real savings into non-productive endeavours. Always bear in mind that the government doesn’t have any real savings of its own, so the only way the government can help an unhealthy corporation is to divert savings away from healthy corporations. This diversion often occurs via inflation (increasing the money supply), and is therefore unseen by most observers.

We can’t say for certain that the actions being taken to counteract the financial crisis will lead to a drawn-out economic depression, but we can say that the actions greatly increase the risk of such an outcome. Furthermore, we can say that similar policy moves have, in the past, been followed by drawn-out economic depressions.

Further to the above, we think it makes sense to prepare for a very lengthy period of slow, or no, economic growth. In general terms, this should involve strengthening one’s balance sheet. More specifically, it should involve staying (or getting) out of debt and could involve building up exposure to gold and income-producing investments other than bonds (energy trusts, for instance). Fortunately, a good balance-sheet-strengthening opportunity is likely to present itself over the next six months because the immediate crisis will probably soon give way to a multi-month stock market rebound and the illusion that policy-makers have managed to ignite a sustainable recovery.

Regular financial market forecasts and analyses are provided at The Speculative Investor (A paid subscription service. Free samples are available.)



Letter Re: Salt and Other Key Items to Store for Barter

Mr. Rawles:
I recently stocked the salt supply to the point that I have barter material, purchasing salt for under a penny an ounce. That is a pretty good investment, if you ask me. I purchased four 25 lb. bags @ $3.99 each. Salt is going for between two and three cents an ounce in the supermarkets, but a local restaurant supplier had the bags on the bottom shelf. I will get more the next time I am there. And while I was on the salt kick, I got my first salt block for my supply, and also picked up two of the ten pound blocks to stash for…yep, barter.

Also, after canning several batches of butter and margarine, I realized that this is something that most people will not have. It is very cost-prohibitive for the average bargain hunting prepper to buy the canned butter, but at 59 cents a pound, margarine is cheap. It cans beautifully, and the shelf life is about two years, with some going longer. I am canning some in the 4 oz. jars for ease of barter. If you have the room to store it, it is a great item to have on hand! Let’s face it, a pat of margarine goes a long way to a semblance of normalcy! Not a necessity by any means, but so nice on that cornbread or hot yeast bread! Directions for this process are all over the net, and many sites have pictures. It is actually fun to do, and takes no special equipment.

I also have been buying all the over the counter medications that I can get on clearance, knowing that these items will be in big demand. Just because the store can’t sell it doesn’t mean it isn’t good. Think about it. How can they keep us buying if they tell us the real shelf lives of these products?? It may lose a bit of potency, but it is still good.

I never go into a store without checking the clearance aisle. Spices, medications, first aid, and toiletries are often there, and cheap. I can get them at a pittance. I also make a game of the advertised specials, looking for the real deals, the “loss leaders” [a retail item that is sold at cost or even below cost to attract customers.] If it isn’t 50% off, it isn’t a good sale!

Even with the strict rules for stocking, I have to get creative now with storage. Prepping can be done, on a budget, without breaking the bank. And it can also yield the items that will barter our way into what we don’t have. By stocking when the sales occur, and using from our stock for the everyday items, the money goes so much further. Even if the Schumer never hits the fan, this is a way of living that makes sense, provides physical and emotional security, and stretches those pennies to the maximum.

I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it! – Sparky

JWR Replies: Salt will indeed be a crucial barter item, especially in inland areas.

When planning for barter, consider container size. For salt, a one pound paper canister, while somewhat inefficient use of storage space is the ideal size for barter. My advice: Store your own family salt supply in bulk, but your barter stock in small and convenient containers.

In addition to planning fri cooking and food preservation, you should store lots of salt for attracting big game.As I’ve written before: After TEOTWAWKI, you shouldn’t “go hunting.” That would be a waste of effort. Have the game come to you. If you have the storage space, buy 20 or more large (50-pound) salt blocks. These will also make very valuable barter items, for your neighbors that most likely won’t plan ahead as well as you.



Odds ‘n Sods:

Searching for an article on how to more quickly and effectively sharpen a chainsaw (mine always seems to be a rock magnet), I found a great article in Backwoods Home magazine: Ambidextrous chainsaw filing. (BTW, be sure to look through their big on-line archive of other free articles.) I also strongly recommend subscribing to Backwoods Home. It is one of our family’s perennial favorites!

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The latest harvest from our Economic Editor: Stocks Fall On Belief Global Recession Is At Hand25% to 30% of Hedge Funds To DisappearCrude Oil and Gas Prices Tumble To Lowest In A YearDow Expected To Dive To 5,000 In 2009London Market Losses WorsenAsian Stock Markets Slide FurtherRussian Financial Crisis DeepensUS Mulls New ‘Bailout’Impact Of Recession SpreadsS&P 500, Dow, Nasdaq Futures Reach ‘Limit Down’ LevelTokyo, Seoul Head Asian Market Train WreckUS Dollar Death DanceThe Economy’s Next Bogey: Consumer Belt-TighteningAnother Painful Week In The MarketsWall Street Halts Futures Trading Amid PanicDow Slides 312 Points On 79th Anniversary Of CrashBoE: Worst Financial Crisis In Human History

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“Nines” sent us this: Another Friday, Another Bank Collapse

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Susan Z. flagged a Yahoo piece: Global Economic Crisis: What the November 15 Summit Is Really About





Note from JWR:

Today we present another Retreat Owner Profile, which will soon be added to the Profiles static page. BTW, we still have room for several more international profiles (outside the US). I am saving the last few slots in the US profiles section for people that have very unusual home/retreats. Perhaps someone that lives in an underground house, or someone that lives aboard a houseboat. If you decide to e-mail us your Profile, please closely follow the same format used in the the others. For your privacy, be sure change enough details so that your neighbors won’t recognize you. (You can even change the locale to another state with a similar climate).