Letter Re: P-10 Self-Contained Fallout Shelter on eBay

Mr Rawles:

I got a chance to tour the P-10 self-contained fallout shelter that you have mentioned a couple of times here on your blog and wanted you to know that it is as advertised in apparently really good shape. The smart money would be on this one with a complete system checkup while it is being reinstalled. I have dealt with Ready Made Resources in the past always with good results and I think he will help anyone who wants this shelter have a positive experience with its purchase. If it were not poor timing for me this shelter would not be available because I would have closed the deal on it.
Thank you for providing this resource of information! – SC



Odds ‘n Sods:

SurvivalBlog reader Tom. H. recommended a thought-provoking letter that was recently posted at The High Road. It refers to an earlier essay: On Sheep, Sheepdogs, and Wolves, by Dave Grossman

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The Nanny-State do-gooders at the Washington Post assert that private firearms training is “under regulated”, implying that it is some sort of threat.

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NY Times: Human Flu Transfers May Exceed Reports

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SurvivalBlog reader G.G. recommended a web site with some free text files on survival topics, including several from Kurt Saxon.

 





Note From JWR:

Today we present the first article for Round 5 of the SurvivalBlog non-fiction writing contest. The writer of the best non-fiction article will win a four day “gray” transferable Front Sight course certificate. (Worth up up to $2,000!) If you want a chance to win, start writing and e-mail us your article soon!

The high bid in the SurvivalBlog benefit auction (for a fully stocked M-17 Advanced Medical Bag/Rucksack) is now up to $250. Special thanks to the folks at Ready Made Resources, who donated the kit. Please submit your bids via e-mail.



Night Shooting Skills by Christian Souljer, May 2006

I hope and pray that none of us will ever have to use our weapons to respond to invasion of our homes, our city or our country, but if we ever do – chances are that the attack will come during the night. Therefore we have reason that we should all practice our night-time shooting skills for defense. In 2004, I was able to participate in an annual “Practical Rifle Night Match” at my local gun range. The weather was cold, dark, and at times raining lightly. This match was a two gun match (pistols also) and consisted of 4 stages with both close range and “medium” range night targets (less than 100 yards). All of the shooters I observed were using one or more of the following: iron sights with a gun mounted white flashlight, an illuminated scope, tritium night sights, or a laser & white light combination. I did not see or hear of anyone using night vision devices in this competition.
My equipment: In this match I shot a DSA built FAL carbine with a 4×12 scope (which I set on 4 power). I generally prefer a scope over other optics because I like to be able to see my target well and I often shoot at 300yds or further. I am a hunter and at times I actually hunt deer with my semi-auto .308. That scope really helps identifying my target (in that case – a deer with antlers). Since I had not previously mounted a flashlight to this gun, I manufactured a homemade mount for a two C-cell MagLite which I mounted into and below the front grips. I adjusted the mount so that the focused beam is more or less on target (aligned with my sights). This flashlight with brand new Ultra-cells worked reasonably well to light up the cardboard silhouettes out to about 75 yards. For the pistol targets I shot a ParaOrdnance .45 auto with Trijicon night sights.
Night Shooting Requirements: To shoot effectively at nighttime you must be able to do two main things, (1) see your target, and (2) obtain target acquisition with your sighting system. You also must know your weapon system well. Know how to operate it by feel – in the dark, being able to change magazines and clear jambs in the dark. In regards to seeing your target – you can shoot something you can see, but without knowing exactly what it is. CAUTION! You MUST KNOW what you are shooting at! There should be a great emphasis on identifying targets/dangers at night with your equipment. Just for examples sake, let’s suppose there is a known invasion of your part of the country by a foreign power. You see a man carrying a rifle and he is headed towards your retreat. Is it a foreign soldier bent on shooting anyone he sees armed or is it a friend who has finally hiked to your bug-out location after two months of being on foot after his G.O.O.D. vehicle was wrecked exiting the city? You must have ways of identifying friends or foes and having a bright gun mounted light is one of those. Don’t make a tragic mistake of shooting a friendly! (Note: whistle codes, code words, special routes, and flashing light/color codes are some ways to identify a friendly family or group member or a neighbor). Lastly for requirements, apply all the normal “daytime” shooting safety rules and know your backstop!
My Experience Shooting a Rifle and Pistol in the Night: I learned many things during this match which I share in the following paragraphs. One interesting stage began with close targets (about five yards) that had to be shot with your handgun before moving to the location of your rifle and taking on the longer distance rifle targets. Tritium night sites on my .45 auto worked very well for shooting at cardboard silhouettes in very low light. The drawback to tritium only is that there is no method of identifying whether the object of concern is friend or foe when in very low light. For this determination to be made a light will be required. Some of the contenders used a hand held flashlight while firing their handgun at these targets. I tried it and since I had not practiced it much I found that it was very awkward so I resorted to plan B – using my night sites only. In this case I had identified my target with the flashlight and with my eyes adjusted to the low light I was able to see the cardboard silhouettes targets with ease even past the flash of the .45 auto. Having a pistol mounted light can be very advantageous in a tactical sense although it makes the package a little bulkier.
In other stages, the targets were to be taken out by rifle and they were from 25 to 75+ yards away. Rifle scopes are great for long distance shooting and target identification but they can fog in cold damp wet weather. They have somewhat limited use by themselves in low light/night shooting. Also, the flash of the rifle can cause you to temporarily lose track of your target (although this did not seem to be as much of a problem as I thought it might be). And with a limited field of view it is easy to loose track of what’s where downrange after the medium recoil of a .308 Winchester when trying to take quick but accurate shots on multiple spaced targets. I was able to hit my targets fine but the process was much slower than in daylight.
The most advantageous method of night shooting I observed was the ability to make quick accurate shots from the hip by just pointing a flashlight /laser aiming device on the illuminated target and pulling the trigger. This was by far the fastest method to accurately shoot multiple targets in a field of fire. Of course this would take some practice to do well and an effort must be made to conserve battery life – which is short for dual mode (about 1-2 hours or so, but up to about 45 hours for laser only). This seemed to work very well with the .223 guns, and I think it may be possible to do it with a .308 caliber rifle.
In another stage, the shooter had to move towards a target that was moving at you and shoot while on the move. This is very difficult if you have not practiced it – especially through a scope. I advise any serious defender of their community to practice this skill!
In my final stage, the targets were very close and the shooter had to kneel and shoot from strange angles, around a barricade from both the right and left sides. With the targets being very close I was able to use the beam of my gun mounted light as a quick sight and was able to score decent hits very quickly even making a mag change during the process.
Match Scoring: The scores were a combination of accuracy in the shortest time. Since the regular daytime monthly matches are held on Saturdays which are a work day for me, I only get to shoot in them about 2-to-3 times per year when I take a vacation day. Many of the shooters shoot in almost every match that is scheduled. I consider myself a fairly good shooter and I usually place in the middle to slightly upper middle out of a group of about 50-60 shooters, however, in this match I placed much lower. This was because of several reasons (1) Experience – it was my first night match, (2) My lack of practice shooting through a scope at night time (slower target acquisition), (3) My gun mounted light and sight setup was far from optimal for me under these conditions. At my next opportunity, I will have a much better light and sighting system and I will have practiced my shooting skills much more in the dark of the night.
Night Shooting Equipment Options: There are a few budget minded options that can help the “poor man” to be able to shoot fairly effectively under certain darkened conditions. Glow-in-the-dark paint on iron sights is one option (this paint is commonly available at Michael’s and other craft stores, sometimes in the children’s toy/craft sections). It is very inexpensive, and can be used to mark other items that you may need to find in the dark. If you are on a very limited budget – the MagLites will be much better than no light on your weapon. Be informed that bulbs will eventually break on these lights under the shock of weapon firing, so keep numerous spare bulbs near (with) the gun. The mini-mag will probably work okay indoors with new batteries – to protect our home etc., but outdoors to be able to see and identify your target you will be much better off with something like I used for this match – the two C-cell MagLites. For the match I just used the existing on/off button switch on the C cell light and just turned it on when I was ready to check my field of fire. A pressure switch kit could be adapted to this light through the rear section, just make sure to seal it with silicone if you drill and run the switch wires through the end cap. There are commercial mini-mag light kits that change out the rear section of the light which has a pressure switch wired into it. These work well and make it easy to put a budget light on your gun. For mounting these little lights there are several commercial mounts that are simple and cheap.
As JWR’s “Patriots” novel (previously titled TEOTWAWKI ) stated, one can use a thin strip of white tape down the top of a barrel as a rough night sight. Probably more appropriate for close range shotguns, but of great value. Tritium night sites can be purchased for common guns for both the front and rear site. Again, you may be able to get a site picture on a target but be sure what that target is and that is not a friendly.
Then, for people with a hundred dollars or more in their weapon light budget, there are some quality bright lights in the 65 to 90 lumen range. Beyond that, combining a laser to your system will greatly enhance your nighttime shooting ability. For about $250 on up the M6 Laser / Light Combination by Stream light and the New TLR-2 seem to be excellent systems. The newer TLR-2 uses an LED rather than a halogen bulb so it is much less likely to fail with the shock of shooting heavy projectiles and the battery life is greatly extended. Streamlight claims they have a “no excuses warranty” on the TLR-2. There are other lighting systems out there but I mention these units because they are what I am somewhat familiar with.
Night Vision Devices (NVDs) are expensive, and NV scopes are little trickier to setup properly without damaging the imaging tube. For those who can afford it, NV scopes may be one of the best options especially for a retreat kept gun as opposed to a gun that is field carried (these units are rather heavy). If you do decide to buy a NVD start with a Generation 2 or better system. ATN is one of the good manufacturers. Remember to set up your NV scope in low light such as at dusk or darker, and while still having some minutes of useable light – use the pin hole cover to avoid letting too much light into the device which may cause damage on some units.
A small secondary tactical pocket light with a red filter can be very useful during nighttime operations. Use it if your gun jambs or malfunctions, or you need to verify ammo or even just to check a spot in your trail.
Other Night Shooting Options: If you are thinking about using tracers as an aid to verifying your point of impact (POI), then be sure that you have tested them along side your main ammo loads to know that they have the same trajectory at all distances that you are capable of shooting to.
Night Shooting Practice Options: It is not easy to find a safe place and method to practice night shooting skills. However, after thinking about it I came up with the idea that BB or Pellet pistols and rifles could be used for night practice. If a shooter was able to find an air rifle and pistol that were at least similar to his real guns and he mounted similar sighting and lighting systems to the shooter’s real guns – to their air guns, you might be able to develop some good skills in your basement, backyard or local woods in very low light that otherwise may be very difficult to practice with regular firearms. If you can find a place to shoot your firearms safely at night, that would be the best practice but aside from that – the air gun route may be your next best bet.
Lessons Learned:
It is very hard to acquire targets through a scope in the dark when moving. This is a skill that should definitely be practiced.
A scope is still a viable option for night shooting with proper target illumination
A scope’s “useable” field of view will be further minimized at night with low illumination of the target area
A white light is a must for identifying your potential target
A focused white light that is well aligned with your sights can be used as a sighting device by itself at close range (similar to a laser aiming system)
A flashlight & laser combination may provide for the fastest night-target shots
Moving around and performing various tasks in the dark is a skill unto itself. Make time to practice
Get the best night shooting equipment you can afford, then practice with it
Practice, practice, practice

As I have written before – whatever you decide to use that matches your skill level and your budget, you absolutely must get it out and test it in the field under real conditions to make sure it works. Try your setup in the dark during rain and fog as well as clear nights. Use in high and low humidity too. Try observing multiple target types and know whether you can determine friend or foe before firing. Whatever you do in the field – do it safely!



Three Letters Re: Stocking Up on Prescription Medications

Sir:
Regarding your blog entry on the subject of prescription medications, I wish to provide you with information regarding expiration dates: I work for a pharmaceutical company. While profit is a reason why expiration dates can be conservative, it is not due to “planned obsolescence.”
Here is the way things work in the U.S.: drug companies are required to put an expiration date on all drugs. Companies are required to prove to the FDA that the drugs will remain safe and effective through the expiration date on the drug (when stored as described on the label). Generating that proof is expensive, and it gets more expensive the farther the expiration date is from the date of manufacture. So the drug companies don’t want to spend money on expiration date studies (known in the industry as “stability studies”) any further in the future than is necessary, but must spend money on stability studies (at a minimum) that will avoid an expiration date that is too close to the date of manufacture (defined as expiration dates that could be reached prior to the drug being sold, or would cause customers to avoid the purchase of drugs that will soon expire).
What does that mean for consumers who want to store drugs beyond the expiration dates? There is not one answer for all drugs. Some drugs are truly ineffective or unsafe very soon after their expiration dates. Others can be almost “as good as new” for decades after the expiration dates have passed. Thanks for the great novel, and a great blog. – Mr. Pharmacopoeia

Greetings, Jim:
As a practicing pharmacist I want to reply to the questions raised re: expiration dates of RX meds. The dates placed on the label are generally one-year from the date of dispensing and do NOT reflect actual expiration in most instances. The Dept. of Defense did a study on their extensive med stockpile, many of which were expired, and concluded that many drugs were “good” for ten years. I have meds that are several years old and do not hesitate taking them. I store them in a cool, dry place, in the dark. Follow this rule of thumb. And desiccants are great! If any have strange smells, discard them.

BTW, stockpiling of RX meds is a good step. If the SHTF in our country there is only about a 3-5 day supply of meds on our shelves to dispense. If an epidemic strikes consider it about a 2-3 day supply, at best. I’m not kidding. We routinely run out of meds on a GOOD DAY. Don’t get caught behind the curve on this! Better yet, get healthy and reduce your dependence on artificial substances now while you can. – Concerned Pharmacist

 

Dear James,
Your site is “must reading” for me. I am a physician and have spent most of my career in the pharmaceutical industry. Here is my 2 cents on this topic. Most solid dose form (tablets and capsules) medicines retain sufficient potency for several years beyond their expiration dates if stored per the label directions. Some medicines may retain potency for several decades if not contaminated or subject to excess humidity. Viet Cong used antibiotics and other medications in the 1960s and 1970s that were “liberated” from the French in the 1940 and 1950s.

If there is medication that has a substantial impact on your health, such as insulin, blood sugar testing, and syringes for diabetics or anti seizure medications for epileptics, etc., talk with your doctor and pharmacist about long term supply and stability.

On the other hand aspirin breaks down quickly to a less potent pain reliever so I advise buying it in small quantities. Probably best practice for survivalists is to keep their old medicines for a rainy day, stock up on essentials in tightly closed, unopened “stock bottle” containers that have pharmaceutical desiccants placed by the manufacture, but ask a knowledgeable person if there is any specific toxicity or loss of potency with that particular medicine. Always follow any labeled handling and usage information and advice.

Other exceptions to the general rule that properly stored medications last for several years are suspensions and other liquid formulations made by the pharmacist for immediate use. For example, it is common for very young children that the pharmacist adds water and perhaps a flavoring agent to an antibiotic powder and mixes this up. This suspension is designed to be refrigerated after being mixed, and to be used within a month or even sooner. To prevent contamination do not let mouth germs enter the bottle. If the pharmacist is going to mix two or more bottles at once for a single prescription ask for only one to be mixed until the second is actually needed. Add you own clean water when needed and shake as directed.

Another exception is for any sterile liquid such as eye drops or any medicine for injection that may become contaminated and/or infected. Please read the product description. If the label says, “Solution must be clear. Do not use if cloudy, yellow or brown.” then take this to heart.

Another exception is for use of old tetracycline and related antibiotics (doxycycline and minocycline). There may be a nephrotoxicity or damage to kidneys from breakdown of old tetracyclines.

Here is some info that I took from another web site:

There are four chemical instability reactions that can potentially take place when it comes to tetracyclines. The first is conversion to anhydrotetracycline via dehydration, when stored under acidic conditions. This occurs when tetracyclines age and through improper storage, which leads to nephrotoxicity. In basic mediums, tetracycline will open its ring and form isotetracycline. In acidic solutions with a pH around 4, an inactive form will result. This occurs through epimerization of tetracycline at the 4-position from the alpha to the beta position. This was accounted for in the old tetracycline capsule with an overfill of 15%. The last reaction that can take place as described previously is phototoxicity. This is common with compounds containing a chloro-substitution at the 7-position. This leads to sunburn from free radical formation with sun exposure.

Regards, – Yorie in Pennsylvania





Letter Re: Stocking Up on Prescription Medications

Mr. Rawles:
As my family ages we seem to be getting more dependent on prescription medications which I’m sure will limit our chances of survival in many SHTF scenarios. When family members are on long term prescriptions, it seems possible to set some aside for when the normal medical infrastructure may no longer be available. (Assuming the person they were prescribed for, maintains custody of the stashed meds, there doesn’t seem to be an obvious violation of the law. When the SHTF scenario occurs, the worry about law violations would probably take a much lower priority than physical survival.)

It would be helpful if someone knowledgeable could give some guidance appropriate to long term storage. Some principles would be intuitive such as, if possible, rotate your stock so that the freshest gets stored. Avoid high temperature/high humidity, bright light storage. Information sheets that come from the pharmaceutical company or the pharmacy have suggested storage conditions but I’m pretty sure these instructions assume stable social conditions in which the meds would be used by their normal expiration dates and replacements would be available from the traditional sources.

For instance, would removing moisture with silica gel and then freezing the sealed container of pain killer or antibiotic be better in general than just storing the meds in the original container at room temperature? How reliable are expiration dates on prescriptions? (Does the pharmacist just generally put an expiration date on the bottle that is some approximation of when the potency will go down significantly or does he/she actually use the pharmaceutical company’s date from the original bulk package?) I used to go to a doctor who was famous for giving out expired drug samples. He said the date were very approximate and potency almost never increased with age. He also said the decrease in potency was very gradual and a drug that was six months past the expiration date might still be 90% of full potency.

Some of these practices I’m suggesting might be considered risky under normal conditions, but under long term SHTF conditions these meds would be priceless and well worth the risk of using them.

Are there any books or Internet sources available already for this type on information? – A.W. in Pennsylvania

JWR Replies: Regardless of how extensively you stock up, remember to store your meds in the classic “cool, dry place”, away from sunlight.

The expiry dates on both prescription nd non-prescription medicines are very conservative, for two reasons: 1.) Legal Liability, and 2.) Profit. By having early expiries, the pharmaceutical companies sell more drugs (replacing “expired” stocks), which means more profit. Perhaps some of the doctors of pharmacists that read SurvivalBlog will chime in with some realistic figures on actual shelf life. (This goes beyond my expertise. Please help me out here, ladies and gents.)

OBTW, I describe a WHO-approved titers test for antibiotics in my novel “Patriots”.



Letter From Buckshot Re: Buckshot’s Survival Attitude Versus the “Commando” Survival Attitude

Since Everyone is talking about it here goes…
David in Israel hit it perfect with his last letter. Thank you! The whole purpose of the article was to open people eyes to the fact that is a whole lot more to survival then fancy firearms. I thought people would enjoy reading about the little things it takes to survive for one year. Even in the outstanding book “Patriots” how many firefights were there? Not a whole lot. My point was if it was just me in the wilderness I would be carrying .22 Buckmark and a 30-30. Because I have carried the gun all day in the woods. I want something lightweight short, fast, and reliable. I never intend this to get into a whole gun debate. That is your personnel decision and choice.

Here is an example of what one man did with a bolt action rifle: The “Winter War” was fought in the beginning stages of WWII Stalin in Russia wanted to expand is territory to include Finland. Well the Finns are a stubborn breed. They were not about to hand over their country to some communist Government. Out numbered by incredible odds they fought Russia into a standstill and sued for peace. Part of Finland was given over to Russia so Stalin could save face. The Winter War lasted 114 days. One sniper with a 1928 bolt action Moisin Nagant 7.62x54R [with iron sights] killed more than 500 Russians. The Russians called him The White Ghost. He was given a nicer updated rifle with a scope but he hung it on the wall of his house and continued to use his old rifle. When asked why, he said he would have to lift his head too high to use the scope. He was dropping Russians from 100-to-500 meters. [With iron sights.] The point is that in the hands of the right man a bolt action rifle is devastating. If you want an America, example look up Sergeant York did in WWI against machine guns with a bolt action M1903 in .30-06. There is an old saying: “Beware the “one rifle” man.” Learn whatever rifle you own to be the best with it.

Buy whatever you feel you need, but don’t forget the Dietz lantern, the propane stoves, the kerosene, good wood stove, the water well, rechargeable batteries, the LED lights, the one year food, the boring grain grinder, the first aid kits, etc. I am serious. I don’t mean this in sarcastic way, but what are you folks in the city going to do for water? I agree most folks should Bug In. Stay home. Just make sure you are well-rounded in your whole survival approach. – Buckshot



Odds ‘n Sods:

Hitlery Clinton speaks out on Ethanol: Good message, but a dubious messenger.

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The UN wants your guns

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In an interview with Der Spiegel, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad discusses the Holocaust, the future of the state of Israel, mistakes made by the United States in Iraq and Tehran’s nuclear dispute with the West. It is scary to see someone this wacky running a national government!

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SurvivalBlog reader Jim K. mentioned this interesting piece on substitutes food in the South during the Civil War





Note from JWR:

I recently did some inventory/archaeology down in Jim’s Amazing Secret Bunker of Redundant Redundancy (the notorious “JASBORR”), and I discovered some downright doubly-redundant items. These include: some military manuals, several Bianchi UM84 holsters (some with thumb breaks and thigh tie-downs) that fit both Model 1911s and Beretta M92s, as well as some Bianchi double and quad Model 1911 (single stack) magazine pouches, a few extra copies of The Encyclopedia of Country Living, a scarce original pre-1955 Heiser revolver shoulder holster, plus a couple of M1911 concealment holsters. I’ve just added them my mail order catalog.



Letter Re: Nando Parrado on Survival

Sir:
Did anybody read Piers Paul Read’s book “Alive“, or see the movie? In 1972 a small airliner with 46 people crashed in the Andes Mountains between Chile and Argentina. The 16 who survived both the crash and a later avalanche ate the bodies of the dead. Nando’s sister died after 10 days in his arms. Eventually Nando and his friend Roberto Canessa hiked out 10 days through unbelievably treacherous terrain, and after 72 days the group was rescued. It is an incredible book, I’ve read it several times. Nando finally wrote his own book, “Miracle in the Andes“. It is not anywhere so complete as “Alive“, but it is his own tale of the gripping emotional struggle he faced to survive and then to hike out in the face of certain death. ( and it is great to read the epilogue of how everybody is doing after 30+ years. Nando has a beautiful wife and two daughters). The ending is so movingly articulated.They did not survive because of leadership, innovation, creative problem solving, or teamwork, although of course all those things were an integral part of his experience. It was not cleverness or courage or competence or savvy that saved them.It was love–for each other, for their families left behind, for the lives they wanted to live. It was love that saved them. I’ve always thought of trying to get people to prep as related to warning of impending crisis, whether a nuclear jihad on CONUS, natural disaster, dollar and banking collapse, etc. I’ve been wondering instead how much of the problem with doom-n-gloomers is just plain lack of love. I wonder if talking about loving our children or friends is really the only way to talk about prepping, and if love really is the only thing, in the end, that will get us all through what is coming. Life with wheat and beans and no love won’t be worth living. – Lyn



Letter Re: Keeping Extra Guns for Barter?

Dear Mr Rawles:
I was wondering how you felt about having a few trade guns on hand? Over the years of horse trading and estate sales et cetera, I have picked up a couple of [M1] Carbines, Mini-14s, old Model 1911 pistols, and so forth. Should I dump them now or hang on to them to barter with in bad times? Or even give out to friends and family when needed? Thank you and please keep up the good work. I’m an every day reader.- J.H.

JWR Replies: I highly recommend that unless you are severely short on key logistics (such as storage food) that you retain most of those spare guns. Keep all of them that are in common, man-stopping calibers. Sell off (or trade) any that are in marginal calibers (such as .380 ACP or .30 U.S. Carbine), or any that are in obsolete or oddball calibers that are not commonly available. For determining what constitutes commonplace, I use the “Wal-Mart Test”: If it is a caliber that they have on the shelf at your local Wal-Mart, then consider it commonplace.



Letter From Vic at Safecastle Re: SurvivalBlog Group Buy on Folding Paratrooper Bikes

James:
I just listed the ultimate prepper bike in my store–the Montague Paratrooper–developed in conjunction with DARPA for the military, and only recently made available in the civilian marketplace.
See my eBay store item listing. The manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) is is $695. The minimum advertised price (MAP) is $645. Our special SurvivalBlog-only price is much lower for a very limited time. Our limited-time, group-buy discounted price cannot be advertised. (Due to a MAP contractual agreement.) Anyone interested should e-mail me and I’ll provide the special price: jcrefuge@safecastle.net.
The bike comes in either an 18 inch or 20 inch frame. The one needed is based on height–see the bottom of the listing. This bike was designed and built to be parachuted out of airplanes, to be unfolded and to be ridden away in 30 seconds. These bikes are tough and light! I’m excited to have them in my store and to be able to offer SurvivalBlog readers a very nice discount. The group buy will run through the end of June. Orders should be delivered in July. Regards, – Vic Rantala, Safecastle LLC