SurvivalBlog’s News From The American Redoubt

This weekly column features news stories and event announcements from around the American Redoubt region. (Idaho, Montana, eastern Oregon, eastern Washington, and Wyoming.) Much of the region is also more commonly known as The Inland Northwest. We also mention companies of interest to preppers and survivalists that are located in the American Redoubt region. Today, we focus on the variety of reactions to the coronavirus pandemic in the American Redoubt, most notably that of Idaho Representative Heather Scott (pictured.)


Bonner County: Sheriff opposes stay-at-home order

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North Idaho Legislator Urges Constituents To ‘Push Back’ Against Governor’s Stay-Home ‘Edict’

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A ‘Liberty’ Rebellion in Idaho Threatens to Undermine Coronavirus Orders

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Paradise in Idaho: Boondocking the Snake

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An unusual event last week: 6.5 earthquake rocks southern Idaho, according to USGS

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Governor Little Signs Bill to Improve Constitutional Carry in Idaho


Montana National Guard begins screening travelers arriving in Montana. A snippet:

“At the direction of Gov. Steve Bullock, more Montana National Guard soldiers and airmen have been activated for COVID-19 response.

The 73 soldiers and airmen will be screening individuals arriving in Montana from other states and countries, with their permission, and follow up with information for anyone who needs it..

Beginning Friday, they will be present at airports in: Bozeman, Billings, Kalispell, Missoula, Helena, Great Falls and Butte.

The National Guard will also have a presence at train stations in: Whitefish, Havre, Shelby and Wolf Point.”

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Gov. Bullock Says He’s Likely To Extend Coronavirus Closures And Restrictions

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Dr. Krayton Kerns: Social Distance Champions.

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This truck company in Belgrade (near Bozeman, Montana) deserves mention: Acela Monterra Trucks.  They do amazing re-builds of milsurp FMTV trucks. Here is a quote:

“Acela’s Monterra 4×4 and 6×6 cab-over-engine trucks are from the U.S. Army’s Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles, or FMTVs, which claimed reliability of more than 95 percent, according to David Rosen, Acela’s president. The trucks have been retired, and Acela buys them from the Department of Defense. They are Class 6, 7, and 8 vehicles that feature Caterpillar midrange diesels and Allison automatic transmissions, plus all-wheel drive and a high stance that enables them to traverse rough trails or pathless terrain, and ford streams up to 30 inches deep.”

A look back at Butte during 1918 Spanish flu pandemic

Eastern Oregon

Bend: County clarifies rural property short term rental ban. The article opens with:

“Deschutes County officials have clarified their prohibition on short term rental stays in the rural, unincorporated areas applies to time shares. The county says to  clarify – the order does NOT prevent an owner from using their own timeshare, but it would restrict them from renting their timeshare to another party.”

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Elgin resident running for Congress

Eastern Washington

‘Non-essential’ Tri-Cities gun stores refuse to close under Inslee order

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Spokane County approaches 200 confirmed COVID-19 cases, with 2 new deaths reported

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Spokane Police receive reports of citizens being questioned by officer impersonators


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Sobering survey shows a third of Wyomingites have either been laid off or have a family member who’s lost their job. JWR’s Comment: It is troubling to see how badly the economy of Wyoming is suffering, considering that  the last I heard, there were only 15 confirmed cases in the state.  And also at last report, Wyoming is the only state in nation to not yet suffer a single COVID-19 fatality.

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  1. At present there are 9 states that have had the common sense not to lock down, and from the perspective of the plandemic they are doing just fine. Why don’t you link to Martin Armstrong’s videos where regular guys with cameras go into the allegedly really bad areas in New York, after the media shows death and destruction and huge lines of people, only to see the lines of people all gone and the area quiet. Just like the Sandy Hook hoax, crisis actors are being hired to blow this out of proportion. The end goal is to put us into a cashless soceity and global government. Does anyone trust a government that lied to us about World Trade Center building 7 collapsing at free fall speed without even being hit by a plane??? Grow some critical thinking powers folks!!!

    1. Do you really believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax? Just for the record 5489 people have died from Corona Virus in NY City. That is a lot of dead actors. I suspect that if you were standing outside the hospital taking video when one of these actors died you wouldn’t be able to see it happen. So much for those two minute videos taken outside of hospitals. Did you know that NY City has rented or purchased 50 refrigerator trailers to put the dead bodies in? Why? Oh yeah to make the hoax look real.

      1. Thanks for all your wisdom Saul. I will trust the government and news media that lied to me about World Trade Center Building 7 collapsing at free fall speeds when it wasn’t even hit by a plane. I will trust the same government that has allowed a privately owned banking cartel to control our currency.

      2. has some great links to video footage where CBS was caught using hospital footage from Italy and claiming it was in New York. Also shows a nurse that was caught lying about being denied masks, she had the fake tears and the whole bit.

  2. Well said JWR. Glad you had the courage to say what needed to be said. This is definately being blown way out of proportion. The powers that want us under a global government are going to use this “crisis” to try to get us into a cashless society and take away as many of our freedoms as possible. This is just the start.

  3. If we were a nation of intelligent, self sufficient, self disciplined, people most of the pandemic proclamations would be unnecessary. Unfortunately this not the case. The sheepele must be herded. I respect covid-19, but I am a lot more worried about what’s going to be left when it is over.

  4. So many of today’s stories underscore the average American’s contempt for Liberty, and lack of understanding of what it is and how important it is, and that our most important piece of private property is ourselves. Americans gladly give up their freedom, let their governor take over their life and force them to stay home because he’s going to keep them safe. Dang, is he going to give me milk and cookies and tuck me in tonight too?

    I hope Bend County will be reimbursing property owners for their lost income now that they have banned short-term rentals. If we believed in Freedom in American they wouldn’t be banning rentals. If any National Guardsmen stop me and question me, they’re going to get an earful with a Nazi salute or two thrown in. Please don’t give me any BS about “they’re just doing their job!” They’ll just be doing their job too when they’re going door to door rounding up everyone’s assault rifles.

    This virus is not a national emergency, it is an individual concern for a tiny fraction of the population, 6/100ths of 1%, who is at risk of dying from it due to their age and their preexisting conditions. As a nation we have completely lost perspective of the numbers.

    A third of Wyoming families suffering due to layoffs when only 15 confirmed cases in the entire state? That’s what I’m talking about. It’s going to take a long time to recover from this. We’re going to look back and realize what idiots we all were. We’re going to wish we had put up a bigger stink when they so easily took away our most basic civil rights and no one even put up the slightest whimper. I guarantee you they’ll do it again.

    1. I read this article from the links JWR offered above: A look back at Butte during 1918 Spanish flu pandemic

      What got my attention was the reported attitudes of many of the people in Butte. Is this situation like that one or a fake, I don’t know. For that matter, was that one faked? The government was lying to our ancestors back the, at least according to Major General Smedley Butler who wrote about it.

      As for our liberty, I know many people, left and right who will not surrender liberty easily. Different tactics, perhaps. Patriots, all.

      Carry on in grace

      1. When we know that “our” government lied about World Trade Center Building 7 collapsing at free fall speeds, (many people don’t even realize a 3rd skyscaper fell that day) what else are they willing to lie about to gain control over us??? The book “War is a Racket” by Smedly Butler is excellent. How much further along and more sophisticated is the deception now?? Why don’t we have a group of politicians who point out we have a private run for profit bank, deceptively called the “Federal Reserve” that has been involved in running the people and our country into a debt that can never be paid off. There are so many things that we are lied to about in the U.S. that we have to ask ourselves how we can trust anyone in a high level of office.

      2. Hi Marine, my problem is that the vast majority of Americans don’t know what Liberty looks like to begin with. All they have to work with are erroneous ideas that have been indoctrinated into their heads and called “Freedom.” I’ve never heard a single person in my life question the idiocy of having to get permission from the government, and then purchase a license, just like a fishing license, in order to get married. Marriage is just a contract between two people, and none of the government’s darn business, and they have no right to be charging me money, or forcing me to buy a license. But nobody questions it because they have no comprehension of Liberty. Ditto car insurance and 10,000 other laws, which laws only exist to take away our freedoms, no to create order in society. We can create order in society with rules. Then when someone breaks those rules, and creates a victim in the process, then let the weight of justice fall heavily on the perpetrator, but not before. Fining me $300 for rolling through a stop sign at 6 AM on a Sunday morning is tyranny, not justice, it’s tyranny, not maintaining order in society. People want the illusion of safety, not Liberty. Hence Walter William’s words about American’s contempt for Liberty. He was correct.

        1. We are called to educate other about what liberty looks like. I find gentle examples are powerful. To wit: I married my sweet spouse over twenty years ago with no license and she appreciated keeping gov’t out of a persona; and spiritual commitment.

          In my state, no one forces me to buy a license to drive, or fish, or sell real estate. I know, however, that the penalties of doing so w/o a license are severe. I make my choices. Other folks also take their chances. We all have a story of an uninsured driver leaving the scene of a car crash.

          I refuse to blame others for my choices by saying “they forced me to”. When I do so, I surrender my liberty.

          Carry on, in grace

  5. I and wife were enjoying relaxing at the beach, after having to hike 1/2 mile to get there, with all nearby parking blocked off. Nobody else in sight. After about 15 minutes of that, along came 2 Police Boats from 2 different Departments, and threatened (not too politely) to leave immediately, or be arrested.
    As we departed the beach area, a Police patrol car arrived on scene to make sure we were departing hastily.
    The days of “Officer Friendly” are over in this country.
    “To Protect and Serve”, now just propaganda.

    1. Did you get badge# and names,supervising superiors and the address for your lawyers? Sounds like you were there for physical and mental and emotional wellbeing,which were then harmed and threatened with no legal basis.

  6. Well my state has been shut down for a few weeks now. Most all businesses closed. Grocery stores are open. I was there 3 days ago. Probably 100 people in there from all around the city. Myself and perhaps 2 or 3 others wearing masks. What sense does it make to shut down the economy and allow the whole community to come together in one place? Ridiculous. Gun stores and ranges are closed also. I belong to a private club so exempt. I was there yesterday and surprised I had the place to myself. As an aside for A. Lily, it appears that Comet Atlas is unfortunately breaking apart.

  7. I am 70 years young and have never seen anything as absurd as what is happening. This is the biggest hoax ever. I have family coast to coast. No one knows anyone who has any kind of virus. Most are suffering because of work and school shut downs. The only virus is the ones the news reports. No one knows anyone with the virus. Hospitals are empty. Come on people. Ride by your local hospital. Check things out for yourselves. Make video’s of what you are seeing. Share all you find on social media. Quit letting fake news control your lives. Open your eyes and minds. You younger people know how to use social media platforms. Let us spread the real news so others know the truth of what is really happening. Stand up and be counted. Hugs and Love to you all from one mother, grandmother and great grandmother.

    1. We have an excellent lifelong friend, who just wrote a terse letter that said, “Not well”. If he has it, it’s real.

      I have a lifelong friend who works as an ICU nurse in New England. I called them on Saturday to check in with their family. All of his current patients are Covid 19. He and his wife have seven children. Pray for their safety with us.

      1. A good friends spouse is a Doc in the ICU of a Tri-Cities hospital.
        As of 3 days ago, over 20 patients were on ventilators and another 20+ getting serious treatment. All covid.
        Yeah, it’s real. And yes, it’s serious.

        Where I’m at in the Willamette valley, cases are fortunately low. My county has only had 3 deaths attributed to this. All older patients with underlying medical issues.
        Walmart is limiting customers, yet three other grocery stores are business as normal. (With the exception of rationing things like hand sanitizer and tp.

      2. Hi Lily,

        I will definitely be praying for your nurse friend. I pray that God keeps him and his entire family safe and secure. He has us in the palm of His hand.

        Blessings to you, Jim and the kids. 🙂

    2. Italy would very gladly Need some of These empty Hospital places, their medical personal deserve every possibility to get some much needed time to recover.

    3. Not saying that some people here and there aren’t getting sick, but it is getting blown completely out of proportion. has a great link to all of the fake video footage that has been created by mainstream media. We had a law called the Smith-Mundt act which prohibited the government from using propaganda and lies on it’s own citizens. The law expired in 2013 and Obama reinstated it. Where I live in northwest Montana, their is 1 patient in the local hospital from this. Yet people mingle by the thousands at Costco, Walmart, etc. Watch all the fake footage created by the media at We are being played folks!!!

      1. A little research on the Smith-Mundt Ac revealed this:

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        On May 18, Buzzfeed published a story by reporter Michael Hastings about the bipartisan congressional effort to change the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 (as amended by the Foreign Relations Authorization Act in 1987). The story was entitled, “Congressmen seek to lift propaganda ban,” and focuses on the successful effort by Reps. Mac Thornberry (R-TX) and Adam Smith (D-WA) to add their Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 as an amendment to the House version of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act.

        The new legislation would “authorize the domestic dissemination of information and material about the United States intended primarily for foreign audiences.” The Buzzfeed article outlines concerns inside the defense community that the Pentagon might now be allowed to use information operations and propaganda operations against U.S. citizens. A correction added to the story notes that Smith-Mundt doesn’t apply to the Pentagon in the first place.

        In fact, the Smith-Mundt act (as amended in 1987) only covers the select parts of the State Department that are engaged in public diplomacy efforts abroad, such as the public diplomacy section of the “R” bureau, and the Broadcasting Board of Governors, the body that oversees the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, and other U.S. government-funded media organizations.

        Implementation of the law over the years has been selective, haphazard, and at times confusing, because even State Department bureaus often aren’t sure if they have to abide by it. The Thornberry-Smith language is meant to fix that by applying Smith-Mundt to the entire State Department and USAID.

        The Defense Department, meanwhile, has its own “no propaganda” rider, enshrined in the part of U.S. code that covers the Pentagon, and that is not affected in any way by either Smith-Mundt as it stands or by the proposed update now found in the defense bill. The only reason the Smith-Mundt modernization bill was attached to the defense bill was because that bill is one that’s sure to move and Congress hasn’t actually passed a foreign affairs authorization bill in years.

        Note the bill was introduced by both a Republican and a Democrat. For all we know, they may both be agents of the deep state. I have no opinion on that.

        Obama signed it into law since it was safely tucked in the defense bill. We can blame him for many things. In this case, I give him a pass.

        Carry on in grace

  8. I just heard in the morning news that the Governor of Georgia has reopened the beaches there.
    Oh boy ! Now, living in South Florida, being restricted from the beach, the state with the longest coastline in the U.S., I can drive over 300 miles to go to the beach.
    Yeah !

  9. What’s becoming apparent in this country, is that the next/coming Civil War will not be between states, but between the Haves and the HaveNots.
    If I need it, and can’t get it – I’m going to take it !
    By whatever means necessary !

  10. Mayor of Chicago got a haircut over the weekend. (Everything is on lockdown in Illinois but it’s OK for her)! Grrrrr!!!
    Governor rants & raves everyday on radio about how they haven’t received “this” or “that “ from Federal Government. Stop Whining!!
    I don’t listen to anything they say, I go about my business of traveling to take care of my mom & dad.
    I have noticed that the grocery store shelves by mom and dads have NOT been restocked (3 retirement 55+ communities in this area) but the same chain grocery store on my way home was pretty stocked. (Maybe this is intentional to try to kill of the older population) that way when they are gone the government can just swoop in and steal everything that these seniors have worked for their entire lives.

    I plan to continue rebelling and go about my daily business, safely of course. (I’m not a baby, I don’t need to be told what to do, I’m a responsible adult).

    Gonna go download the Illinois constitution, that should be interesting.

    Thank you JWR & Lily for allowing this platform for us to gather. I could almost feel the rage that you have in what is going on with our country.

    Will continue to pray for everyone for health, safety and wisdom to make our own decisions.

    Lily, special prayers for your family & friends mentioned. By the way, I hope your mom is doing well, my mom & dad are doing remarkably well during all of this.

    Have a Rockin great day

    1. Dear RKRGRL68,

      Please forgive us, but we are not feeling rage, not at all. Biblically, prophetically and historically we knew this would come someday… Our world-wide, now united, society, has been primed, through the evil media, for this, for the past century and a half. It’s the Age-old Cosmic Battle between God the Creator and Satan, the Created being who rebelled against God. Satan is now putting his play into action. He has a very limited time. He WILL prevail against the Saints for a season, but we will have the ultimate victory through our faith and trust in the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

      So what we are feeling is a sense of awe and deep sadness that it has happened so, so very quickly and the method in which they are using.

      We weren’t exactly expecting a pandemic… But is perfectly logical, for fear of death and illness, cause the sheeple to obey the PTB. The PTB are seriously taking advantage of the situation and are enacting draconian dictatorial laws and are doing away with our Constitution. We can rightly fight them and disobey many of their evil edicts, especially those which are contrary to God’s eternal laws. Because in that disobedience we are obeying God’s laws which are higher than man’s.

      This pandemic is real therefore, we must do the right thing in taking care of ourselves and our families, which does mean self-isolation and precautions, but we also trust in the Lord, Psalm 91.

      This is the Passover season, God is dividing His people from Satan’s people Exodus 8:23 in this approaching season of history. Those who belong to God will not participate in the coming global economic system. We will not take the Mark of the Beast, which will be a digital tattoo which will say that you’ve had the Covid Virus or have received the vaccination against it.If you don’t take this Digital tattoo, you will not be able to “buy or sell” (work, conduct business, enter grocery stores, get medical health etc.)

      If you believe in Jesus, you must know that the digital tattoo is it. You cannot take it and still go to heaven. The choice to follow God or to follow Satan is here. Many of us WILL face persecution and death in the coming days, months and years. So your choice to follow God and to trust in Him fully to take care of all of your needs outside of the economic system, is almost here. We must be ready in our hearts to stand strong in our faith through it. We will have the victory in the end if we remain faithful even unto death. Time to wake up and get serious about repentance and your salvation from sin.

      Romans 8:14-end
      For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

      For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

      The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

      And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

      For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

      For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

      For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

      Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

      For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

      And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

      For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

      But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

      Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

      And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

      And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

      For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

      Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

      What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

      He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

      Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.

      Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

      Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

      As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

      Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

      For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

      Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


      I thank you for your prayers for our friends and family. My mom is nearly recovered now from that terrible cold. I am glad that your parents are also doing well and are healthy. I am praying for you and all of our other Blog readers. It’s a gorgeous sunny day here in our corner of the Redoubt. May you all have a sunny and peaceful day!


      1. Lily,
        Please forgive ME. I thought about what I wrote earlier this morning and realized that it was ME feeling rage. I’m always so grateful for the personal responses you send to me, helping guide me, and being a good friend. I learn from you everyday and from others here sharing their thoughts and feelings. I feel strongly that there was a reason I discovered Jim’s books and this site way back in 2009.
        I continue to daily work on myself and my relationship with God and I thank you for helping me understand things in a way that I myself didn’t really understand.

        So good to hear that your mom is doing well.

        It is a beautiful day today!


        1. Dear Sweet RKRGRL68,

          Of course, I forgive you. And it’s okay to be very angry with what they are doing to us. It is VERY Upsetting! Despite it all…
          May you have the peace of God in your heart that passes ALL understanding despite all that is happening and a very sweet and blessed sunny rest of the day!


      2. I have no intention of taking any vaccination and especially if there is a digital tattoo or chip involved. But I don’t see where it could be the mark of the beast unless a person has to publicly deny Jesus Christ to take it. I believe that this corona virus scam and the coming vaccination is a test in order to see what the public is willing to do out of fear or to see what they will do when ordered to do so.

    2. RKRGRL, you offer sweetness in the middle of a rant: Will continue to pray for everyone for health, safety and wisdom to make our own decisions.

      I salute you.

      Carry on in grace

  11. My neighbor died of COVID 19 yesterday. It’s real. It’s spreading. It may not hit every community exactly the same way, and that might mean different measures are called for in different communities. But I’m surprised at the attitudes of denial among some of the commenters here. I’m a fan of JWR because he takes seriously the idea preparing for bad outcomes in the future is a task wise people pursue in the present. Reports from communities battling the virus ought to be treated as reports from your own future. Maybe you luck out and the storm doesn’t come. But Noah built the boat before it rained.

  12. Oh here we go. Mayor of Chicago just announced that ALL benefits in light of the virus, emergency financial, health, Etc. Will be given to illegals since we are a sanctuary state after all
    They are also setting up a fund for this.
    BTW, on yesterday’s radio “look at how great we are “ press conference they specifically brought up how many minorities have contracted and died from this virus. The tone they used disgusted me as I don’t feel we need to drag out the demographics of this virus! It is affecting EVERYONE!!

    Rant over, (not really but I’m going to go plant some more seeds to calm down).!!

    Rock on

  13. We are being naive if we believe much if any of this is going to improve. War is being waged, against not only us, but the entire world. It isn’t in the nature of someone winning a war to do a lot of retreating.

    What is happening is only the latest push to bring in the NWO. IMHO it is a brilliant move on the part of the perpetrators. Who could have foreseen how compliant the sheeple would be?

    I’m not a particularly big fan of David Icke but he does an excellent explanation of what is happening in this video. This is the first part of a 2 hr video. (language warning)


    The rest can be watched here if someone is interested.

    For those of us that are Christians it would appear that the best thing we can be doing at present is to strengthen our relationship with Jesus Christ/Yeshua and be ever in God’s word, praying for wisdom. We are going to need boatloads.

  14. At this point, I’m not even trusting of the vote! We applied for a absentee ballot for my mother and still haven’t received it and it’s been over a week, and today we vote! She’ll have to vote in person, which is something I wanted to avoid.

    Our county just doubled the cases in the last week, and as of today added 4 more cases and one death.

  15. Sigh… in my feeble mind, the only reason I can come up with for the nationwide shut down is that the virus was genetically manufactured and we had zero immunity to it when it first went, no pun intended, viral. We had the potential makings of a global crisis, very real, very deadly. Not only has social distancing flattened the curve, we have far less deaths from the flu and pneumonia than in the past. You can track stats nationwide here: America is getting a huge lesson in hygiene, if nothing else.

    I’m not being naive about the government issuing what we consider unconstitutional “laws”, but the war powers act, the national emergency executive orders, etc., give our federal government explicitly stated and broad powers to do exactly what they’re doing. For the law abiding citizens, we don’t need more laws. However, there is a huge population among us that are not law abiding and therefore, we expect our governments (fed/state/local) to control the criminal element. Where’s the line? Or… it’s vigilante justice and every man for himself.

    I expect the mandatory shelter-in-place orders to be lifted within the next 2 months, hopefully end of this month. I expect the economy to roar back to life. I expect the supply chain weaknesses, that have now been exposed, to be repaired – it will take months. I expect the corporations who have held out for manufacturing in China, to now come home. I expect the majority of folks will become “preppers”. I expect there to be revival as people realize how tenuous and vacuous modern life is without God. I expect urbanites to seriously considering spreading out across the country to become more self-sufficient. Sometimes it takes a “good” scare, unfortunately, for people to take a right turn. Basically, I see good things coming from all of this, even though some will face tragedy and that breaks my heart. #Pray

    1. Your last paragraph is the silver lining in this cloud. Many things will change for the better. I do hope we learn from this and correct the many mistakes we have made.

    2. “…the only reason I can come up with for the nationwide shut down is that the virus was genetically manufactured and we had zero immunity to it when it first went, no pun intended, viral.”

      Hey SaraSue, I would bet a monster box of Silver Eagles against your silver dime that the reason for the nationwide shut down has much more to do with social media and the 24/7 “news” cycle we have nowadays than any other single reason. The point almost everybody keeps missing is that the Hong Kong flu from 1968/69 killed a million people worldwide. There was never a single person or model anywhere, since this Covid-19 outbreak, that was predicting it would kill a million people. Those of us who lived through the Hong Kong flu just remember the name, that’s it. We remember Woodstock that year, and as someone said the other day, we put a man on the moon that year. This year, we as a country are so freaking out you couldn’t get your roof re-shingled if you needed to, let alone put a man on the moon. If we as a population weren’t so fear-mongered into believing that we are at the brink of death here, we’d be screaming bloody murder at the civil rights abuses we’re facing and the economic disasters that await us. If nobody was predicting an outcome anywhere near as bad as the Hong Kong flu, then why are we doing any more as a country then we did back during the Hong Kong flu? IMO we shouldn’t be. But with a 24/7 “news” media and the internet to indoctrinate us constantly, the powers that be can pull off pretty much anthing they want, as we are currently seeing.

      1. You’d probably win the bet. I agree that there are forces (foreign and domestic) that would like to crash our economy into smithereens, have mail in voting due to the “crisis”, and try to revoke our civil liberties. They are the same folks who keep calling our country’s structure a “democracy” rather than a “republic”. They want control. They want to continue to enrich themselves at our expense. They care nothing for us as individuals or for the principles upon which this country was founded. It seems, that many of them believe the world would be a better place if many of us died, lessening the “burden” on Mother Earth. They are, collectively, The Enemy.

        However, I don’t buy the idea that the Administration is full of dumb people who would call a halt to our economy due to media and Hollyweird hysteria. Because of that belief, in my own mind, there is something more to this virus than meets the eye. If we had true numbers on the number of people who died from COVID19 in China, that might answer some questions. In any case, there is something more serious going on behind the scenes. My humble opinion only. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

        1. Hi SaraSue, I totally agree with your comments. Trump made a comment on March 23rd that more people would die form the economy shutting down (i.e. via suicides) than they would from the virus. He’s against shutting down the economy, it’s the governors who are implementing these insane lockdown orders and the public who are for the most part cheering them on.

          You are correct, China has definitely suppressed their numbers, I’m guessing by a minimum of 5x, probably way more? But the numbers they have released are more or less agreeing with the percentages that New York is now releasing: it is killing mostly older people. Below is a link to New York’s percentages. 82% are 60 and older, 93% are 50 and older. That agrees with China’s numbers. One of my sons has a theory that China is using this to thin out their overpopulation problem, getting rid of a large portion of their non-producing financial drag on society, and that they will emerge much stronger than they were before, and in a much better financial position to challenge America as the next world power.

  16. If the doctor/coroner writes the cause of death, as “Death by Chocolate”…then THAT is the “official” cause of death..and the numbers roll on.
    When they rolled the patient over,to take em to the morgue, there was found a brown penny lodged in his windpipe.

    1. Don’t forget the “Arkancide” deaths. A German economic minister suicided by train without leaving a note to his wife and small children and no signs of depression? Most Ft. Detrick virus deaths are “assumed” by CDC guidelines-no test.

  17. For a first-hand account of the 1918 Spanish flu in the Redoubt, read Elmer Keith’s auto biography “Hell, I Was There”. Besides hunting and shooting there’s lots of info on the off-grid living he had before they moved to town in Salmon, ID. when he was about 50 years old.

  18. The danger of WuFlu is real. Four friends in the Denver area have it. Two are very sick at home and in their 50s. Two are in ICU intubation, in their 60’s.
    Is the damage to our economy worse than the reality of the disease? My opinion is” most definitely”. However, this disease does kill and reasonable precautions should be followed.

  19. JWR – thank you for your analysis on these strange quasi-legal “stay at home” “orders.”

    Would you be willing to share your analysis on what comes of the fact that the US and several other countries are printing a few trillion here and a few trillion there to paper over the fact that many people are not working.

    Can the current fiat systems survive this?
    Whereas many people believed once that the federal debt would be repaid…
    then that belief switched to the federal debt would be serviced….
    But just barely and only with a strong economy….

    Now, adding greatly to that debt, and with the tax base used to service this debt greatly lowered….

    Will the belief that this debt will be serviced continue? And if not, what comes next?

    Will it be the understanding that the debt will not be paid back – but that we should all just continue to operate is if it will somehow be serviced by printing the money to service it?

    The switch to communist modern monetary theory where those “in power” get to decide who gets the created currency?

    The collapse of faith in the worlds fiats?

    A Bill Holter type switch to the new and improved SDR based fiat that pushes globalism?

    Something else?

    Thank you very much.

  20. While Covid-19 is a real thing and people are sick and dying, this is ultimately a spiritual battle. Like 21:10-11 warn us of pestilences. God is allowing this, even using it to further His plans. Ephesians 6:12 – For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Ag, this is a spiritual battle, we must keep the faith, keep in God’s Word, keep in prayer, and share the gospel whenever opportunity allows.

  21. Not sure about the timeliness of the Wyoming data in your post; as of now 4/7 we have 216 COVID-19 cases, although still no deaths, thankfully.
    The main causes of layoffs here are the downturn in oil prices and the shut-downs of restaurant/tourism/personal services businesses. We expect severe downturn in revenue for our mostly small and rural hospitals. They’ve cancelled all nonessential services (mainly due to the national shortage of protective equipment) so, seeing as many hospitals don’t even have one COVID+ patient now they don’t have any patients at all!
    A real eye-opener on the role of supply chains in the economy.

  22. Ya know, of course there are deaths. That is natural. Yes this is a highly contagious virus. People will die. We have been through this before many times throughout history. I was at a funeral this AM if you could call it that. No wake, no church service, no cemetary. We lined up in uniform in the street ( keeping social distance guidelines per the gubermint) as the hearse passed by. Cause of death? Covid 19. This person was elderly and sick for years. He almost died last year but pulled through. He was an exceptional person. I seriously doubt if the Civid killed him but his death went into the Covid column. His quality of life was not good.

  23. not sure why everyone is saying this is a hoax but carry on….

    i am reminded of this verse today:

    Rom_8:28  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

    all things must come to pass for the Lord to return if the virus is part of that bring it on…

  24. Most of what I’m reading is literally making me sick, most of the people who are reading this are likely in an area that has not been hit yet by this virus…’ll have to wait your turn. This is not going away this year or next year or probably for many years. We will be lucky to find an antiviral or vaccine to help contain this with in the next 18 months.
    Everything is not a conspiracy, this is real science.
    I challenge any of you non believers to go to one of the hard hit cities and volunteer for 3 days in an Intensive Care Unit. Then tell me all about the fake deaths. It’s really disgusting to hear from all you armchair conspiracy nuts.i currently have one nephew (healthy 36 yr old), and one niece 13, who are very sick.
    Been there, done that in ICU for 30 years, you really have no idea what a normal day is like much less what it is like in some of those hospitals in NYC right now.
    Plagues of all sorts have happened throughout history, and will continue to happen. So when you decide to go out and do as you please remember to think about the lives you may affect directly or indirectly. Oh and when you finally have that car accident or heart attack and there is no hospital open in your area any longer due to a critical shortage of Health Care Workers, remember why, and what part we all played in getting to that point. This is just history repeating it self.

    1. You are exactly right. So many simply cannot see the forest for the trees. We live in a society that wants instant satisfaction and anything that takes longer than a few days is ignored. Sadly this virus will eventually reach most every nook and cranny. Of course some tiny town in the boonies may not have the deaths that NY City does but it may have it’s share of misery. Sooner or later even the non-believers in Covid-19 will get Covid-19.
      I am happy to see that the federal and state efforts have lowered the curve. It is ironic though that because of that small success and fewer deaths and illnesses than predicted the naysayers are harping that it was never a serious risk. But the curve was lowered no eliminated. Sooner or later it will come to every city and town. But thanks to the effectiveness of steps taken by our government it has not overwhelmed our health care system. I hope our luck with that continues.

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