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  1. My add ons

    Food: real tea if you´re a tea Person
    Tools: Multi tool, SAK
    Backpack: good civilian Backpack, comfotable, less weight and look what they take to climb mountains and expeditions
    Rain Gear: Pants and pack your gear waterproof in your backpack
    Lightning: a Lantern for your candles

  2. I get that survival means different things to different people, but from my perspective, a proper fixed blade knife together with a way to hold and boil water are my two most essential items. I do not even see a knife mentioned here. Oh, and a knife sharpener.

  3. Don’t forget your “short barreled rifle” for its “intimidating effect”. And your organic food along with hemp seeds and hemp oil…thanks, I’m guessing those are important in NYC. Geez!

  4. I understand that this series is geared to heading to the mountains when “something big is about to happen”. I agree that gardening is key being self-reliant.

    However, building productive gardens takes years, long after 6 months of basic supplies are exhausted. And under the author’s scenario the project can’t start until you ‘find Zion’. Then it will take moving earth; think heavy duty construction equipment. This is way beyond the capability of gloves, a small gardening shovel and handheld pruning shears, an unproven supply of seeds.

    My point: Survival for the first 2 years (minimum) will depend on food from someone else’s pre-existing garden(s). Find Zion NOW. Make friends and build trust with folks living there NOW. Recognize that this is challenging even if you are a neighbor, even more difficult if you are ‘an outsider’. Also they may view your survival plans as threatening to the survival of their loved ones.

  5. For trapping supplies, I use Fur Harvesters Trading Post (fntpost.com).
    All things trapping/snaring from beginners to pros. Low prices, friendly folks.
    Trapping is a skill you need to have.

  6. That’s a pretty daunting list for a “newby”, hell, it’ a pretty daunting list for an old timer like me! Do I have most of this stuff ? Well, yes, but it has taken most of my life to do it. My best advice, GO CAMPING ! Even if you don’t have ANY camping gear. Just take stuff from your home. Build a little shelter, make a campfire to heat up a can of beanie weinies. Sleep under the stars. When you do it again you’ll bring things you forgot the first time. Just do it, get started !
    This Spring start a garden. Even if it’s just a couple of tomato plants in a pot. Get the experience of doing it! Get your spouse and kids involved. These are life long skills that may some day save your life, or theirs.

  7. Just caught up on another awesome PodCast by JWR. You need to do more PodCasts.

    Since moving to the redoubt fully, we’re still not self sufficient. The wood stove caught my attention in the PodCast… You need to understand the mechanics, the brick layout, the heating structures, and making spaghetti wasn’t that easy the first time. There’s a huge learning curve with everything. I like the camping example above.

    1. Real, full self suficiency was a fools Dream since humanity started as hunter gatherers.

      Can you build your house including every brick, glas and tool?

  8. Short barreled rifles are no help, too much loss of power. Take 7.62×39 8M3 for example: The round fired from a 10.5″ barrel will have only 1250 ft/lbs of energy, and the bullet performs as most “hollow points” and remains roughly intact. But fire this round from a 16″ barrel, and the energy jumps to 1550 ft/lbs, and the bullet tears a huge wound channel and fragments. M193 ammo also does the same in energy vs barrel length. That round was designed for a 20″ barrel length, and not the 14-16″ lengths of M4’s.

    I have studied the feasibility of hemp production for fiber and paper pulp, and in my studies found that hemp seed and oil does not store well. It’s too unstable for prepping purposes.

  9. I would like restate the importance of gloves. Leather and heavy duty rubber palmed garden gloves. Most of us don’t have toughend hands and cuts can get infected and a doctor may not be available as well it’s much harder to work with a wounded hand. Also rechargeable batteries are a good investment. We have a small solar battery charger that works great. Having flashlights and battery operated tools makes work much easier and saves time.

    1. Runnamuck, ah yes, “Rely on God”. This is the same God who has already bestowed an abundance of blessings (faith, liberty, skills, knowledge, ingenuity, perseverance, discernment, ability to compose compute rationalize memorize etc.) upon us.

      Most folks here have used these blessings to learn that our loved ones are in danger. Do you honestly believe that God does not expect us to use these God-given blessings to protect our loved ones?

      Yes we must Rely on God. We must keep faith in Him and continue praying for guidance to get through a time of possibly great suffering, just like he guided us in discovering and discerning, the danger beforehand.

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