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  1. JFK being assassinated did not lead to the GCA of 68′. As a senator, JFK introduced legislation to control the importation of surplus firearms in 1958. Between 1938 to 1965, congress had little interest in firearms legislation. While JFK’s assassination may have been used as rhetoric for justifying the GCA of 68′, there is a lot of literature that points to the primary cause of GCA 68′ as being the rise of violence and crime in urban centers, and the Black Panthers taking armed protest on California’s State Capitol front steps in 1967.

    Understanding the historical account of what led to and followed GCA of 68′ is very important, because gun control is fundamentally an act of institutional racism. This is very paradoxical considering the leftist stance on the topic. I always wonder why this part of history is never part of the current gun control focus?

    In the late 1960s, early 1970s, the gun control debate was further discussed through “Saturday Night Specials”, and was associated with being a way to combat communism. The earliest forms of militarizing police tactics where implemented during this time, too.

    1. You are correct. It was not the assassination of JFK that prompted passage of GCA ’68. Rather, the real impetus was the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy (JFK’s younger brother). RFK was killed by a Palestinean assassin, Sirhan Bishara Sirhan. He was born into a Christian family, and claimed to be a Rosicrucian.

      1. Great reply, JWR!

        Sirhan Sirhan, who filled his notebooks with comments such as “Long live communism!” and “R.F.K. must die!”

        Check out this article when you get some time. It is a peer-reviewed article which means it may be behind a pay wall. Check scholar.google.com and if you cant find it there, let me know and I will email you a copy.

        Vizzard, W. (1999). The Gun Control Act of 1968. Saint Louis University Public Law Review 18(1), 79-98.

        2. Thanks for the email w/attachment MuddyKid!

          @JWR and @MuddyKid, we updated this guide based on your feedback: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qj2f4b8eorfmv2f/Screenshot%202019-03-10%2016.59.48.jpg?dl=0

          These updates were made to https://ammo.com/articles/background-checks-guide-history-nics-how-they-work today on our site.

          JWR you can snag that updated section directly if you’d like in order to update your republished version here: https://survivalblog.com/gun-background-checks-explained/

          (Alex will also send over the updated section code-wise so you can drop it into your version above if you’d like.)

          Thanks for the trip down memory lane here both of you. Adding this section prompted me to go back and re-read parts of https://www.amazon.com/Hellhound-His-Trail-Hampton-Sides-ebook/dp/B0036S4BX0/, which is such an excellent book about MLK’s assassination.

          Also this month we’re going to review the following two sections after we’ve worked our way thru that “Vizzard, W. (1999). The Gun Control Act of 1968. Saint Louis University Public Law Review 18(1), 79-98” scholarly article which MuddyKid was kind enough to share.

          https://ammo.com/articles/guns-nra-and-american-civil-rights-movement-guide#black-panthers
          https://ammo.com/articles/gun-control-guide-major-federal-acts#1968

          We want to make sure those sections in both of those write-ups are historically accurate and captivating story-wise.

          ~Sam

    2. I’m an NRA member and a retired LEO in Calf., making me a “double despicable”, I have some issues with “background checks”. Calif. has some of the most restrictive laws on guns, and almost everything else that lawyers love. My issue is about confirming someone is eligible to buy, but NOT storing the data of who buys what. I’m at an age where I’m passing down my guns to my kids, and every year having to check and see if I’m now committing a felony. It’s past my bedtime so bear with me. Why can’t NICS be available to everyone, where you log in data to verify a buyer, register the transaction, receive an “eligibility” you can both keep, and have no records kept of who has what. Calif. courts in early 90’s allowed criminals to take plea that would drop a gun charge and accept lessor penalties to clear backlogged court calendars. I don’t think that’s changed much. Calif. DOJ didn’t keep records on long guns until a few years ago.
      There isn’t much “common sense” prevailing around this, so what do others think? BTW, my folks passed down their experiences of the “Depression” growing up, and the importance of self-reliance, making me a “prepper” since 1972. I’ve followed the Golden Rule, B of R & Constitution my whole adult life.

  2. FL:

    On Saturday, March 2, 2019, mid afternoon, a background check for a stripped lower took 1 hour, forty minutes… Used to take less than five minutes…

    —-

    It Begins: Nikki Fried Turning Florida’s Concealed Weapon Permit System Into a Bureaucratic Nightmare
    by Luis Valdes
    Mar 05, 2019
    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/03/luis-valdes/it-begins-nikki-fried-turning-floridas-concealed-weapon-permit-system-into-a-bureaucratic-nightmare/

    Z Blog: Recursive Grifting
    Posted on March 5, 2019
    Western Rifle Shooters Association
    https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/z-blog-recursive-grifting/

    Comments:
    plankton67 | March 5, 2019 at 23:20 | Reply

    Here is another one… this time, from Florida:
    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/03/luis-valdes/it-begins-nikki-fried-turning-floridas-concealed-weapon-permit-system-into-a-bureaucratic-nightmare/

    Understand what is going on. This is Lawfare and admin warfare against the citizenry by a corrupt state.

  3. “Universal” background checks are the paperwork needed to have a gun registry. Period. They want to know where every single gun is. And when we fall for their “common sense gun regulation” nonsense we walk right into their trap like the good sheeple our public education system has trained. Wake up people.

  4. nicely written article. An interesting point to possible include is a comparison of the laws enacted due to some tragedy (like JFK) and if those laws would / could have prevented the tragedy. I suspect they would not have prevented the tragedy at the crux of the sensational reaction.

  6. The pastor and his wife from Sutherland Springs spoke to our Sheepdog Seminar on Friday night. In accordance with their wishes and many others working hard to prepare us to defend, we avoid stating or publishing mass murderers names.

    They gave us detailed explanations of how media exploits victims families and the documenation
    showing that murderer’s name publication results actually adding to the urge of copycats to seek higher notoriety.

    The harassment of the victims by both media and many alt-truth deniers, and several acts by mentally deranged people over many months on the church grounds since then, have caused anxiety and fear of further attacks due to the ongoing notoriety.

    Media strangers and others have even waited until they observe parents leave their homes for work and errands, then try to trick the children into letting them in, bearing food and a wolf’s smile.

    So I pass their request on to all of us and anyone we contact. No name publication of the spawn of the evil one.

    Another request: stop spreading the propaganda that it’s a “shooting”, which is a sport. It’s a murder that can be halted or prevented by lawful shooters. Call it what it is: murder.

    And if you would, continue to pray for the folks there.

    God Bless

    1. I’ll say it again on SB.com.

      When the Bible was taught in the public schools along with our Christian heritage from our Christian Founding Fathers who established a government based Christian principles…. there was ZERO gun control and ZERO incidents in public schools involving guns.

      ITS NOT GUNS! IT’S THE LEFTS TEACHINGS in the public schools which make children dead.

      Don’t think for one moment when God was sued out, and Darwinism became mainstream that the children are not doing what they’re taught… “The strong shall kill the weak!”

      Please tell this to your politicians so they have something to fight for our gun rights with.

  7. In Ny we were forced to register our already registered handguns. Each county has a permit department where handguns are registered upon purchase. Gov. Cuomo passed a bill that requires permit holders to register all handguns every three years and “ renew lifetime pistol permits”. We were told the state police merely needed the records to help prevent crime. Fast forward a few months and the system is up and running.
    My brother in law got pulled over for a busted tail light and the first thing the cop asks is ,do you have your registered firearm on you? So much for “ its to prevent crime”! For the record my in law lives in rural NY and has every right to be carrying where he was pulled over. Just another example of how the Governor considers an armed citizen the enemy!

    1. We also live in rural western NY. My wife and I are cross-permitted concealed-carriers. This new “recertification” Cuomo signed into law is more or less a trap, I believe. As you correctly stated, your info is tied into the DMV, so they do know by your plate(let’s not even get into License Plate Readers). The recertification rate has been low because there’s been no real push,other than 1 reminder in the mail,coupled with a little rebellion among gun owners, you just don’t hear much about it since it’s been law. But, I can imagine a scenario just like the one you stated where if you did not re-certify and you get pulled over, you are now guilty of a crime and you can say goodbye to your weapons and your permit.

  8. AT the moment there is no real federal “Gun Registry” I believe the Federal Law with regards to the ATF FFL dealers are required to keep a log of gun transactions for up to a year maybe a bit more but each state has their own mechanism as to how they keep and or document guns and gun owners. I know when NY State passed the NY Safe Act they imposed a one year registration deadline for AR type rifles. After the deadline if you had not registered your AR type rifle you were in violation of the law. Currently in the Supreme Court there is a case regarding transportation of a legally owned firearm out of city limits, Basically the City of NY states that No you cannot transport a firearm out of the city even if you legally own it. If the City of NY loses this case it may open the door to more lawsuits against restrictive states against less restrictive states when transporting weapons in passing. Expanded background checks are angling to include mental health checks although I am not sure how they can get around patient confidentiality laws. basically in the not to distant future there will be more barriers to purchase guns, I also believe there will be restrictions on magazine and gun types. I foresee a total ban on military grade weapons i.e. hi cap magazines and military style weapons i.e. Assault style weapons. If the gun industry is to survive it should probably start making non-offensive weapons, seriously I see a future where 10 or 8 round mags are mandated and Semi autos (for civilian purposes) be restricted to the same 10 or 8 rounds. I believe if we have a few more active shooter situations where the body count is high and the bad guy uses a dreaded “Assault weapon” there will be a rush of anti- assault rifle laws.

    1. RE:
      >FFL dealers are required to keep a log of gun transactions for up to a year maybe a bit more…

      Actually, those are PERMANENT records, and when a dealer goes out of business, all of his records are BY LAW sent to the ATF’s Out of Business Records Center.

    2. Ffl’s in Alabama are required to keep all firearms transactions for twenty years .
      If they close their business all records are required to be turned in to ATF .

  10. Curio and Relics records are not required to be sent to the ATF’s out of business records center:
    Why don’t you have your Curio and Relics FFL?
    According to the ATF:
    Curios & Relics
    A regulation implementing Federal firearms laws, 27 CFR §478.11, defines Curio or Relic (C&R) firearms as those which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons.
    To be recognized as C&R items, 478.11 specifies that firearms must fall within one of the following categories:
    1. Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas of such firearms;
    2. Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and
    3. Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.
    Firearms automatically attain C&R status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF’s C&R list. Therefore, ATF does not generally list firearms in the C&R publication by virtue of their age. However, if you wish for a classification of your particular firearm under categories (b) or (c) above and wish your item to be listed, you may submit the weapon to the Firearms and Ammunition Technology Division (FATD) for a formal classification.
    Please note that firearms regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) may be classified as C&R items, but still may be subject to the provisions of the NFA. If your C&R item is an NFA firearm (e.g., Winchester Trappers) and you desire removal from the NFA status, you must submit it to FATD for evaluation and a formal classification.
    FATD/FTISB
    244 Needy Rd., Suite 1600
    Martinsburg, WV 25405
    Our Division does not make determinations based on drawings, photographs, written descriptions, or diagrams. In order to render an appropriate classification, please ship the physical item and any supporting information to the address above.
    Please ship your item to FATD with a prepaid return shipping label with tracking for the return of your item (providing shipping account numbers, instead of providing a trackable prepaid shipping label, will not be accepted). The U.S. Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.
    Are licensed collectors required to turn in their acquisition and disposition records to ATF if they discontinue their collecting activity?
    No. Licensed collectors are not required to submit their records to ATF upon discontinuance of their collecting activity.
    [18 U.S.C. 923(g)(4); 27 CFR 478.127]

    50 year old guns now include FN-FALs and a lot of nice battle rifles.

  11. I was in an Idaho SportsmansWarehouse this weekend. To complete my ammo purchase I was required to give a birthdate — because I was told they had to affirm I was over 18. Being obviously over 50 I simply gave her an appropriate wrong birthdate and moved on.

    Interesting. No state legal requirement for this. They aren’t checking ID to confirm birthdate.So while I understand this may be a federal rule they are enforcing they aren’t doing it in any meaningful way.

    As a principle I give as little data as possible to anyone especially store clerks. I have no idea if this is something legal, corporate data mining, or they are just trying to habituate people to the idea of ID checks for ammo purchases.
    Last purchase I will be making from them obviously for anything and my local gun dealer will be getting my business now since he gets the 2nd Amendment, but geez…

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