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  1. Your article brought to mind a question. Is it true that diatomaceous earth taken internally will destroy different types of worms? I seem to remember this remedy, but would appreciate anyone adding their knowledge of actually working with this. Would like to know how much they used, how it was taken, etc.

    1. You know, I seem to recall hearing something like this as well, but I’m not sure I heard it from a physician. I came across a few websites that promote the use of food grade DE for worms. This is just one of them: https://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=923446. We’re going to take another TEOTWAWKI medical course in August–one of us will definitely ask this question! We’ll post the answer here.

  2. Once again, very good. Exceptions to this are few, abscesses are likely to turn into cellulitis ad some practioners would classify them as the same. Anitbiotic choice might not be in the best order as presented. From my recent experience most cellulitis is caused by MRSA. Cepalexin would not work nor would Augmentin. Doxycycline could be used. People need to look up the various medications and be familiar witrh their uses and dosing requirements, Trying to use a limited supply by giving half doses could be useless unless your giving it to a very small person.
    Using the wrong antibotic is useless and a waste of a valuable resource.

    Cat bites are notorious for Pastruella. (look it up) Impressive swelling at the bite in a short time and augmentin is typically given, NOTE: DO NOT GIVE AUGMENTIN IF ALLERGIC TO PENICILLIN. augmentin contains penicillin.

    On diarrhea, Pro-biotics might be helpful and there are cases where you don’t want to stop the diarrhea as the intestine is trying to flush the bad stuff out. If you slow the flushing the germs will have more time to do their damage. I concur on the Imodium, loperamide is the generic name. They are cheap at the big box stores and you should stock a couple of thousand tablets.
    I believe the price may have recently increased on these, I recently bought 5 bottles and I think they were about $20 a bottle. 5 bottles was all they would let me get and i had to repeat the purchase on my next trip. I see they are u to $32 a bottle now.

    It might be worthwhile asking the pharmacist if you can do a bulk purchase of over the counter medications from behind the counter. Pharmacy’s frequently get their meds in bottles of a thousand and are sometimes willing to sell it at a reduced price. Doesn’t hurt to ask.
    I buy bulk loperamide for irritable bowel with diarrhea, it helps immensely, Benadryl 50 mg is a prescription item unless it is being sold as a nonaddictive sleep aid, Then it is over the counter.

    Hope this was heplful

    1. Something we noted in the classes we’ve attended and books we reference, practitioners sometimes vary in their approaches to managing problems. We also came across an article somewhere showing that there are regional differences in antibiotics prescribed. At any rate, this article was in no way intended to be a substitute for medical or nursing school, but more of a glorified shopping list with reasons why people might want to stockpile certain items. Ideally, supplies will be acquired from the most reputable sources and physicians will be available to advise on their proper use. Totally agree that using the wrong antibiotic is a complete waste at best and could be quite harmful.

      Pasteurella multocida is nothing to mess with, and most cats carry it.

      We think the reason that augmentin doesn’t make the list of antibiotics recommended by most prepper doctors to stockpile is that other antibiotics can do the job. It’s fairly expensive stuff.

      We purchased two bottles of 400-count loperamide at Sam’s Club last month for $5.48 each. They had recently been moved behind the counter. Didn’t have to sign for them, but apparently megadoses of loperamide are being used for opiate withdrawal. I looked just now for loperamide on Sam’s Club website, and couldn’t find any. Don’t know if anything’s up with that.

      Great idea about asking the pharmacy for bulk purchases of OTC meds. Thanks so much for your thoughts.

  3. I am confused. In your first installment, you noted that after SHTF, many people with deep burns, internal wounds, and other severe injury will lack the modern medical technology we take for granted and will die. I think you even pointed out that we must prepare for the death of others.

    In the next couple parts, you suggest treatment for third-degree burns and other conditions that usually require hospitalization.

    You also have no mention of triage approaches to best manage scarce resources.

    So, what are we to do? Try to keep the severely burned person alive w/o realistic hope of long-term survival (Part 1)? Or?

    Yep, I’m confused.

    Carry on.

    1. A third degree burn with charred skin can involve a small area of the body, or it can be extensive. A third degree burn on the tip of the finger is going to be very painful, but quite survivable. A third degree burn covering just 10% of the body can be life-threatening. If it covers more than 30%, without advanced medical support, it’s probably a death sentence.

      We did not cover triage. Perhaps we should have. We approached this article from the point of view of acquiring supplies to care for our own family. We’d like to think that we’ll be in the correct frame of mind regardless of the situation and allocate resources appropriately. But if we’re down to the last of the antibiotics, with one course of treatment and two sick children, who gets to live? Or choosing between a spouse and a child? Choices between saving a family member with the items we procured ourselves or saving an outsider may be easier.

      Perhaps our idea is to prepare so well that none of our resources would become scarce–for our family. We can’t prepare for everybody else.

      Maybe others can weigh in on this. It’s a really important topic to discuss. But it seems there aren’t easy answers.

  4. Regarding selection of antibiotics, ask the local hospital’s lab or pharmacy for their most recent antibiogram which will detail the most frequently encountered bacteria and antibiotic susceptibility for your particular locale.
    Also get a used copy of Sanford’s guide which covers the most likely pathogens by organ and best medicine to use to treat infections.

  5. That’s what’s great about the Survivalblog community! People everywhere comment and offer such incredible information. We already knew that antibiotics prescribed differed a little by locale, but now you’ve shared with us how to find this information for our own areas. Sanford’s guide sounds like a great resource!

    Thank you!

  6. As one who is highly allergic to poison ivy and 6 years ago bought 15 acres of farm/woodland that had been vacant for the previous 2 years due to foreclosure, I am well versed in treating poison ivy rash and keep a Medrol dosepak on hand at all times. But I can promise you that like anything, prevention is much better than treatment. Stock up on Tecnu–an OTC soap that if used within a few hours of exposure will greatly lessen (or potentially eliminate, depending on your sensitivity) the following rash. It is available online in 32 oz bottles and well worth the cost.

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