Scot’s Product Review: Mosin-Nagant M91/30

A reader suggested that I take a look at lower cost firearms, particularly military surplus ones, and I thought it was a great idea. The one he told me that would make a good start is the Russian Mosin-Nagant, which is currently the easiest to find and cheapest surplus rifle on the market. It is chambered in a .30 caliber round, 7.62x54R, and there are a lot of them available at the moment coming from old war reserves in Russia and Ukraine. They were refurbished and put in storage when replaced by more modern arms. Russia and Ukraine are both apparently making some money by selling them off, but with current tensions in the region today, it is hard to say how much longer we will be able to get them. There are embargos against Russia while Ukraine could decide they need to keep theirs. If you think you might want one after reading this, you probably should act in a timely manner.

I should point out that there have been Mosin-Nagants available from a number of other countries, but the Russian-made ones are what we can find easily today, so that’s what I’m writing about here.

Why, by the way, would one want an old military rifle rather than a new sporter? Cost is a huge reason. You can find them from about $130 and up in usable condition. If you are short of funds but need a hunting rifle, one of them could do the trick. Don’t write them off for self-defense, either. They are not as trendy as a tricked out AR, but they have decent accuracy and the cartridge hits hard. I know people who like to have extra weapons in case their neighbors need something during a crisis. We can debate that idea, but if it sounds good to you, the Mosin-Nagant fills that need easily. It is easy to learn to shoot, and you could outfit a squad with ammo for under $2,000, which is just a bit more than a single fancy AR with magazines will set you back. Another plus that I’ll elaborate on later is that ammunition can be had at great prices.

There is also domestic politics to consider. An old bolt action rifle is probably going to be one of the last things to get regulated.

I can’t deny that there is an historical appeal as well. I majored in military history, and apparently the interest is genetic as my nine-year-old son is equally fascinated by it. Any old rifle makes his eyes light up, and it was a joy to let him pick this one out off of the rack. Anyway, let’s get back to the rifles. They have been around for a long time; the 91 in the name stands for the year they were adopted, 1891. The Mosin-Nagant was the front line service rifle for the Russian Empire and its successor, the Soviet Union, until the SKS semi-automatic carbine was adopted in 1949. It had a front line life of 60 years, but it didn’t, however, just fade away in 1949. They are still showing up on the world’s battlefields, thanks to how widely they were distributed to Russia’s allies and communist insurgents.

In my youth, they were disparaged by most shooters as inferior to the Mauser and Springfield. I tend to agree, but there aren’t very many Springfields or Mausers available these days, and they usually cost considerably more. Despite not having the snob appeal, Mosin-Nagants are serviceable and available at good prices.

They have a five round magazine that can be fed with stripper clips or by single loading rounds through the top. Since the cartridges are rimmed, you have to take care to keep the rim of the each cartridge in front of the rim of the cartridge below it, but it isn’t hard to do.

There are three variants usually seen these days. The most common is the M91/30 rifle. The 30 stands for 1930, when the Soviets made some updates to the design. This is what the line grunts got in most of WWII. It has a long, 29-inch barrel, which is less handy than I would prefer but more manageable than I expected. The overall length is 48.5 inches. There are also carbines with 20-inch barrels that are much handier at 40-inches long. This is actually shorter than many of today’s commercial bolt rifles. The carbines would have become the standard front line weapon, but semi-autos beat them out. The last variant is the sniper rifle based on the 91/30. Mosin-Nagants that were actually built as a sniper rifle, complete with scope, are rare and probably should be considered a collectible rather than a shooter. There are, however, a lot of bits and piece out there, including replica parts, that allow folks to build reproductions. Some of the rifles sold as real snipers are probably reproductions and should have sold for less, so buyers should beware. A well done replica can, however, make a nice rifle. Be aware that Mosin-Nagant snipers aren’t what we think of as sniper rifles today. They were pretty much just a regular rifle fitted with a scope. The scope did make it easier to hit targets further away, but they were not the highly tuned weapon an American sniper expects.

There will be two subspecies of the rifle encountered– ones with round or hex shaped receivers. The hex shaped ones are older. In the mid-1930’s, the Russians altered the original hex shape to a round one to make them easier to produce. Hex ones will usually cost most, partially because there are fewer of them and also because a lot of us think that the older guns might have been made better. Pre-WWII guns are usually better finished than guns made during the war.

The 91/30 rifles with round receivers usually range from about $130 to $185 in a local gun shop, depending on condition. You can get them online and have them delivered to a local dealer (or yourself if you have a Federal Firearms License). A hex receiver rifle will probably command another $50 or so. The M44 carbines are now more than $200. There was an earlier carbine, the M38 that some like better, but they are hard to find now. The M44 has an integral bayonet while the M38 doesn’t, so it is lighter. Reproduction snipers, when available, go for $400 and up.

The 91/30 rifles come in at a bit under nine pounds. The carbine without the bayonet is 7.5 pounds while the version with the bayonet is about nine pounds. I haven’t had a chance to weigh one that has had the bayonet removed, but I’m assuming the weight would go down to under eight pounds. Collectors frown on removing the bayonet as you have to deal with a heavily staked in screw so it usually shows that someone has been mucking about with it. I’ll leave that moral decision up to the owner. We’re history buffs here, so we would probably leave it on, but if I wanted it off, I would be sure it isn’t some rare collectible before drilling out that screw.

You will usually find a date of production stamped on the receiver, but it might have been buffed or ground off when a rifle was refinished. Rifles made during WWII are usually not finished as well as pre-war rifles and sometimes show a lot of machining marks. Some look downright crude and ugly.

They were made in a number of countries, including the United States, which produced them in WWI for the Imperial Russian Army. Some of these Mosin-Nagants were even issued to U.S. troops participating in the interventions in Russia after the Bolshevik revolution. Some of the rifles made outside of Russia are considered to be very high quality, particularly the Finnish versions. The Germans captured a lot of them in WWII and happily turned them on their former owners. Carbines continued to be made after WWII with production stopping around 1949.

The cartridge itself is still in use in front line arms, such as machine guns and sniper rifles. At 123-years-old, it is the oldest military round in use today. The “R” in the name stands for rimmed, which is truly unusual in military ammunition. The U.S. gave up rimmed military rounds in 1903. The only other rimmed military round to rival the life of the Russian round was the British .303, which lasted into the 1950’s in general use, though some sniper rifles in .303 kept showing up for many years afterwards.

This round is not to be confused with the more modern and less powerful 7.62x39mm used in the SKS and AK-47. It is a full power service cartridge, comparable to the .308 Winchester in power. Both rounds get about 2,800 feet per second with 150 grain bullets. It is accurate enough to be used effectively for sniping. It can be an excellent hunting round for medium and large game in North America. I might want something bigger for grizzly or brown bears (a 40mm sounds good if the bear is in a bad mood), but plenty have been taken with the .308 with good bullet placement. One key to good hunting performance is bullet selection; hunting ammunition needs soft point bullets. Most of the ammunition you will find, however, is going to be surplus full metal jacket (FMJ), which is not good stuff to humanely take game with. Soft points are out there, but you may have to work to find it. I had no luck locally, but I found some online . It can run from about $0.50 to about a dollar or so a round.

Don’t neglect to get some surplus military FMJ, though. Shooting is fun and practice is necessary; you can get the surplus stuff for as little at $0.20 a round, which beats current reloading costs. It might be good to act now, as current international politics could impede the flow of cheap ammo to the U.S. One warning to heed, though, is that virtually all surplus ammo is corrosive and will rot your rifle quickly, if you don’t clean it immediately after shooting. Make sure your cleaning poison is rated for neutralizing and removing corrosive fouling. Some aren’t. One thing that will work is boiling water, especially if you add detergent. What makes corrosive ammo corrosive are the salts used in the primer, and these dissolve in hot water. You still need something to finish getting out the copper, powder, and carbon, but the hot water gets a lot of dirt out. It also seems to loosen some of the other fouling. Some people swear by Windex, but I haven’t tried that yet. After you are done, you need to put a good preservative in the barrel to protect it.

Speaking of reloading, I have found it very difficult to get bullets for 7.62mmx54R. Most manuals recommend a .310 to .312 diameter bullet, which means the .308 diameter ones for American .30 caliber rounds won’t deliver much accuracy. This is the same diameter as usually found in .303 British and 7.7mm Japanese ammunition. These rounds aren’t all that popular these days for reloaders, and since the manufacturers have had so much trouble keeping up with demand for more popular rounds, they haven’t been making much for these cartridges. Truthfully, as long as surplus ammunition is available at such good prices, I see little reason to load practice ammunition, which I suspect is a common attitude that gives few incentives to ramp up production. On the other hand, I would like to be able to load some hunting ammunition and tune it to my rifle. Until bullets start showing up, that won’t happen.

If you reload, be careful as you work up a load, particularly with the larger diameter bullets. These are old rifles, and there is no need to make magnums out of them. A reasonable load will be much more powerful than a .30-30– a round that has put a lot of deer in the freezer.

We bought our Mosin-Nagant, a Model 91/30, from a nearby gun shop. I could have found one for less online and had it shipped to a local dealer, but I really wanted to be able to look it over in person. It came with a bayonet, which truly excited my history buff son. He picked out a 1932 with the hex receiver. We also looked at a 1943 with the round receiver, but there were a lot of machining marks on it, and it just looked pretty ugly. The 1932, while not up to a custom sporter in finish, still looks pretty good. The stock has a lot of dings and dents but appeared solid.

I did mention that they are long. I really wanted a carbine, but I couldn’t find one locally. If you can find a good carbine, I think you would be happier with the nine fewer inches of length. It will mean more muzzle blast, though. There are a number of YouTube videos of folks showing off the fireball you can get with some of the surplus ammo fired from carbines. This is thanks to the fact that most surplus ammo is loaded for longer barreled weapons, like machine guns and sniper rifles. If you load your own, you can use a powder that will make it more bearable.

The action operates fairly smoothly, though not, in my view, up to a Mauser or Enfield. It is, however, better than some current commercial rifles. There is a kind of catch, just before the handle arrives at the top of the stroke, that I find annoying. It cocks on opening, like the Mauser 98 and most modern bolt rifles. The bolt handle sticks straight out, if you don’t have a sniper version. We are generally used to turned down bolt handles these days, thanks to the prevalence of scopes, which need the handle bent for clearance. The straight handle presents serious problems, if one wants a conventionally mounted scope. You have to find a bent bolt handle from the sniper variant for this. There are a number of vendors and custom shops that carry these. The bolt body can be changed by the user, thankfully. Another alternative is to mount the scope over the barrel in the Scout rifle position. I expect to have another review on this option.

One interesting discovery I made was that the straight handle is helpful for lefties who can more easily grasp it when reaching over the action to operate the bolt.

I have seen criticisms that one cannot operate the bolt while the rifle is shouldered. We can do that with ours, but it is nowhere near as easy as with a Mauser or Enfield. I suspect that if one has a tight Mosin-Nagant or one with a rough action, it would be difficult. Truthfully, I don’t see very many shooters who keep bolt rifles shouldered when working the action, so it might be a moot point for most.

The safety is probably the worst part of the rifle. You have to pull back the knob on the cocking piece and rotate it to the left to safe the rifle. This is awkward and takes a lot of effort. What’s worse is that it is equally hard to unsafe it for firing. Some shooters leave the bolt in the up position and close it before making a shot. I think that would work fine on a stand, but it bothers me for walking around. I could imagine the bolt getting pushed closed and something hitting the trigger. Others leave the chamber empty and work the bolt to fire, but that’s noisy. I’m looking at some improvements that can be installed and will write about them in another article.

The other worst feature is the rear sight. It is located ahead of the receiver on the barrel and is one of those stepladder arrangements with a small open U notch that can be set all the way out to 2,000 meters. I can’t see that far, so that doesn’t do me much good, and I find the notch is difficult to use quickly at more reasonable ranges. I have been truly spoiled by the excellent aperture sights found on U.S. rifles since the 1917 Enfield. That said, you can get hits with these sights, but you have to work harder.

Scopes can fix a lot of the sight issues. I’ve already mentioned the issue of the straight bolt handles interfering with conventional scope mounting. I’m in the process of investigating some alternatives that keep you from having to deal with that and will report on them. Stay tuned.

The bore on our rifle looked okay. It wasn’t bright, but it has sharp rifling. I cleaned it and not much came out, but after running five rounds through it, I was able to get a tremendous amount of carbon and copper fouling out of it. I am assuming that shooting it somehow loosened things up. There is no way five rounds could have deposited as much copper as I got out. It continues to spew forth carbon and copper fouling after each range trip, so I may have purchased a copper mine instead of a rifle.

One oddity of the Mosin-Nagant is that it was designed to be used with the bayonet fixed. That means the sights are calibrated with the bayonet attached, which affects where the rounds hit. You may have to learn to apply Kentucky windage or make some modifications. Most people find they shoot high, which means raising the front sight. Some folks put a piece of heat shrink tubing on the front and trim it to the right length. On the other hand, some have found the sights close enough to hunt with. Ours shoots about eight inches high at 100 yards, and I plan to try the heat shrink remedy when I get time. The front sight is well protected, and I think this should work just fine.

My son noticed that the stock on our rifle is a bit shorter than those on some of our other long arms. I think a little of that has to do with the fact that people are taller today than they were when Mosin-Nagants were being issued. Most of it, however, is probably due to climate. Russians had to wear thick, heavy clothing much of the year, and the more you wear, the shorter the stock should be. The stock is, however, long enough for me to shoot comfortably, as I’m several inches over six foot.

I was surprised at how comfortable the rifle is to shoot. The weight helps, but I think the long barrel has a lot to do with it. There just isn’t as much blast and flash as I’ve gotten used to from short-barreled modern weapons. It actually weighs less than an M1 Garand but seems about the same to me for recoil.

The trigger pull was, as expected, heavy. It breaks at eight pounds, but it is pretty clean and consistent, which helps a bunch. For me, a gritty trigger with a lot of creep is harder to manage than a heavier one that is clean.

So, how does it shoot? Not bad, actually. I did the groups of record with Priv Partizan 150 grain soft points. I need to insert the usual disclaimers that I’m not a great shot, the trigger is really heavy, and the sights are rotten. After all that, I got four inch groups at 100 yards, which is perfectly adequate for deer or hog hunting. I am sure a better shot, particularly with a scope, can do considerably better than that. I’ve seen a number of modern rifles that couldn’t do much better.

I’m really glad I got this rifle, if only because of its historical significance. I long resisted buying military bolt rifles, because I’m left-handed and they just don’t run as well for lefties, but I now regret not buying them when they were cheap and available. Besides collecting them, they are fun to shoot and can serve as decent hunting rifles. They were made to endure the worst war could throw at them, and I suspect they will hold up better than many of the current commercial rifles. It won’t be the first one I grab in a crisis, but I know I would be happy to have it as a backup or as something I can loan a deserving person. It sure hits harder than an AR-15.

I found a couple of Mosin-Nagant enthusiast pages to be very helpful. The second one has some pretty detailed information of caring for these rifles.

http://mosinnagant.net/

http://russian-mosin-nagant.com/

There are also a couple of useful books. 7.62mmR Mosin Nagant Handbook which is pretty much the user’s manual and The Mosin-Nagant Rifle which is a history text on the rifle and its variants. You can get by without them since much of the information can be found on the Internet, but the books are really nice to have. – SurvivalBlog Field Gear Editor, Scot Frank Erie



Recipe of the Week: Cornbread Salad, by L.H.

This somewhat weird-sounding salad is fabulous. It makes too much for any but a very large family to finish; you may want to reserve it for covered-dish dinners and potlucks. Also, when you take it to your occasion, tuck a couple of copies of the recipe in your pocket or purse, because you WILL be asked for the recipe.

Ingredients:

  • 2 boxes (8.5 oz.) Jiffy brand corn muffin mix (or any cornbread recipe that makes an 9×13 cake-pan full)
  • 2 cans (14.5 oz. ea.) pinto beans, rinsed and drained
  • 2 cans (14.5 oz. ea.) whole kernel corn, drained
  • 1 large green bell pepper, diced
  • 2 large tomatoes, diced (or 1 can 14.5 oz. diced tomatoes, drained)
  • 1 small red onion, diced
  • 2 c. (8 oz.) shredded cheddar cheese
  • 16 oz. favorite ranch dressing

Directions:

  1. Ahead of time prepare and bake cornbread according to directions and cool.
  2. Cut one 3×3” slice out and set aside.
  3. In glass 9×13” casserole/cake dish place half the remaining cornbread, crumbled into medium-ish chunks.
  4. Sprinkle over with 1 can of beans, 1 can of corn, ½ the bell pepper, ½ the tomatoes, ½ the onion, and ½ the cheese. (At this point you may want to give everything a good press-down with your clean hand, to allow it all to fit.)
  5. Drizzle ½ the ranch dressing over all.
  6. Repeat layers.
  7. Crumble reserved piece of cornbread to fine crumbs and sprinkle over top of salad.
  8. Chill at least 1 hour.

Makes 8-12 servings.

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Two Letters Re: Septic Tanks

Dear Editor, Recently there have been comments regarding septic tanks, how long they should last et cetera. As of today, if you want to spend money to pump them out every few years, more power to you. However, if there is a true TEOTWAWKI situation, you might want to take steps to add decades to the life of your septic tank. Actually, in such a case, you may want an outhouse that is way way away from your home and a septic tank right at your home. Here is why. In many countries, like Mexico for instance, it is common for a septic tank to go decades without being pumped out. The biggest difference I can see is they don’t pump much gray water into their septic tanks and they don’t throw ANY toilet paper into their septic tanks!! It all goes into a trash can (with a lid) and is dumped separately. (It took me some getting used to when I moved to the Texas-Mexico border area. Even on the U.S. side, where things work, every public bathroom, like at a Walmart for instance, has a small trash can right by the toilet.) It seemingly makes all the difference in the world. Since we are assuming by definition (TEOTWAWKI) that in a situation where there may not be anyone coming around with a pump truck for a decade or two or more, you need to know how to extend the life of that septic tank right from day one of the breakdown of society. My thought would be to have a trash can by each toilet, thus taking things easy on your septic system. After all, you don’t want to be the one trying to empty that thing (septic tank) out with a 5-gallon bucket. Better to take care of it. So? Why the outhouse? Well, no one will be picking up trash either, at least at first. So, have an outhouse away from the main house. Once or twice a day you collect the TP from the buckets and wander down to the outhouse. Since most of your waste, other than toilet paper, will be going in the septic system, I suspect your outhouse will last a good long while before you will have to dig a new hole. This will give you a post-apocalyptic best of both worlds– a flush toilet in the house and yet a way to deal with wastes without having to sit in an outhouse when its 100 degrees OR when its 0 degrees. Yet everything works and everything lasts. – WRC

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In a couple septic-related posts there has been the mention of “bucketing out” the septic tank by yourself. I was wondering what would be the best way to get rid of that waist after the pumps trucks don’t run any more? Thanks, – E.M

Hugh Replies: Without a giant vacuum truck, there is only one way to remove the sludge from the tank. The black water is easy, as you can simply tie a rope onto a bucket handle and dip the water out, one bucket at a time. Most septic tanks, for the average home, have a 1500 gallon capacity. The average bucket full that can be easily lifted is about two to three gallons. It’s going to take a while, and you have to have someplace to put it when you pull it out. You may be able to use it as fertilizer in areas that do not contain human food or animals that will become human food. There is much written about this in the pages of SurvivalBlog, and I recommend you read them thoroughly. However, removal of the sludge at the bottom is what the process is all about. When you reach the sludge level, you have to start filling the bucket with the sludge. If it is soft enough, you may be able to simply drag the bucket to get it. Obviously, a square-shaped bucket has an advantage there. Worst case, someone has to crawl down into the tank and shovel it into a bucket for someone else to haul up. If that sounds like a distasteful job, you would be right, but it is done all over the world. A Google search will reveal the process in third world countries, where they live without the infrastructure that we have. It’s a nasty job, and I hope I never have to do it; however, in TEOTWAWKI, it may be the only way to keep the convenience of your septic running.





Odds ‘n Sods:

Some food for thought: The Once & Future Christendom

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Many people are scratching their heads over President Obama’s insistence that we use the United Nations term of ISIL for the Islamic State of evil thugs and murderers. ISIL purportedly stands loosely for the Islamic State In Iraq and the Levant, with the Levant being a neo-colonial term originating with Britain and France several hundred years ago, when they divided up the Middle East, based on profits from exploitation. According to Wikipedia, the term Levant is only occasionally employed to refer to modern events, peoples, states, or parts of states in the same region, namely Cyprus, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria. This puts Israel in the list of regions and countries that BHO indirectly legitimizes as the goal and the targets of the IS. This is just one more kick under the bus for Israel from our Muslim-Lover-In-Chief. Contacting our congressional reps is worth the effort to revert to ISIS as we watch the REAL Junior Varsity squad in the White House try to tackle this very real threat with ineffective air strikes, threating letters and emails, unfriending them on Facebook, and trying to look really, really mad when the cameras are pointing their way. Yep; that’s a sure-fire strategy for victory, if ever there was one.

Even Newsweek is scratching it’s head in this article. Left-leaning Vox also wonders why the Obama JV team is using ISIL. Finally, Glenn Beck nails exactly what BHO’s use of ISIL means and why it is important. PLEASE EVERYONE-Vote THIS November and the next and the next. – RAZ

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Medieval Weapon Finds Modern Appeal. – G.G.

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Lockdown Begins in Sierra Leone to Battle Ebola. – P.S.

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Stewart Rhodes: #sheepdog vs #sheepdog Speech at the Lamp of Liberty National Press Club. – G.P.



Hugh’s Quote of the Day:

Dico Tibi Verum, Libertas Optima Rerum Nunquam Servili Sub Nexu Vivito, Fili.

“I tell you the truth, my son, that the best of all things is freedom. Never live under the bondage of slavery.”

– quote on William Wallace Memorial in Robroyston, Glasgow, Scotland





God and Guns: Your Biblical Right to Self-Defense, by J.B.

You have a biblical right to self-defense. In a life and death situation, you should know that God says it’s okay. This can prove extremely difficult for Christian believers that respect life so much that they don’t want to take it, even when it means it’s necessary to preserve it.

The Natural Right to Self Defense

Boiled down to its simplest level, every creature on the planet has the natural right to use whatever means necessary to defend itself. Life feeds on life. Nature is brutal and doesn’t show mercy. Wolves eat their larger prey hind end first while the animal cries out for help. Are we to tell the buck being chased by wolves that it cannot turn on its attackers and gore them? Why then cannot we extend this simple logic to humans? Humans dress it up nicely in morality codes that can and do change. But at its simplest level every organism has a natural right to defend its life by any means necessary.

Libertarians

Libertarians have something good to say on the matter in the non-aggression principle.  “Do not aggress against others”. We should live and let live and not take what is not ours. Nor should we compel others by force, for they have every right to defend themselves. This is similar to the biblical truths laid out by Jesus: “Love your neighbor as yourself”. In other words, “Do unto others as you would have done to you…He that loveth another has fulfilled the law.” This includes His teachings on turning the other cheek and being forgiving.

Continue reading“God and Guns: Your Biblical Right to Self-Defense, by J.B.”



Letter Re: The Real Threats

Hi HJL,

I realize that the writer of this article speaks from an area of professional focus, but we actually have more real threats. Also, I agree with your italicized comment about nuclear war. Europe was not nearly rendered uninhabitable, due to Chernobyl. Even if we thought that a nuclear war was non-survivable, not giving-up or quitting is the essence of being a survivalist. Also, terroristic “dirty bombs” are way overrated, and as the author of the article stated himself, most of the casualties would be from public perception and the mass panic.

The US Dollar

As a collapse theorist myself, I would define the most likely threat at this point being a collapse of the U.S. dollar, as our current global fiat currency system is hitting its expiration date (since 1971, anyway). In regards to the entire span of civilized human history, we are now in uncharted territory, in the area of what we call money.

Continue reading“Letter Re: The Real Threats”



Economics and Investing:

Video: Peter Schiff: Yellen Barks on Rates, But Will Not Bite

JWR’s Comments: Despite all of the Fed’s grandstanding and blustering, Quantitative Easing (QE) will not truly end. I strongly suspect that there are hidden mechanisms through international agreements with other central banks that are making up for the reduction in official QE. We can expect more off-budget and black budget bookkeeping shenanigans, contributing to more debt that cannot be repaid without mass inflation. Get prepared for the inevitable dollar crisis, folks! Diversify into tangibles. In the next few months, the depressed spot price of silver and the depressed price of AR-10s and AR-15s (caused by a recent spurt of over-production) represent two good investment opportunities.

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Gold and Silver End Game Here-John Embry. – J.W.

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It’s Terrifying To Look At What’s Really Happening In The U.S.. – J.W.

Continue reading“Economics and Investing:”



Odds ‘n Sods:

From our friends over on the “Thoughts from Frank and Fern” blog comes this excellent article. I’m Going To ??? Perhaps Nike had something when they coined the phrase “Just Do It”.

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The growing outcry over police confiscation

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The Bear and the Dragon Encircle the Eagle. – B.B.

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Nigerian police routinely use torture. – T.P.

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How your innocent smartphone passes on almost your entire life to the secret service. – T.P.



Hugh’s Quote of the Day:

“There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.” – 1 Corinthians 10:13(KJV)



Notes for Saturday – September 20, 2014

Today, we present another entry for Round 54 of the SurvivalBlog non-fiction writing contest. The $12,100+ worth of prizes for this round include:

First Prize:

  1. A Gunsite Academy Three Day Course Certificate, good for any one, two, or three course (a $1,195 value),
  2. A course certificate from onPoint Tactical. This certificate will be for the prize winner’s choice of three-day civilian courses. (Excluding those restricted for military or government teams.) Three day onPoint courses normally cost $795,
  3. DRD Tactical is providing a 5.56 NATO QD Billet upper with a hammer forged, chromlined barrel and a hardcase to go with your own AR lower. It will allow any standard AR type rifle to have quick change barrel which can be assembled in less then 1 minute without the use of any tools and a compact carry capability in a hard case or 3-day pack (an $1,100 value),
  4. Gun Mag Warehouseis providing 30 DMPS AR-15 .223/5.56 30 Round Gray Mil Spec w/ Magpul Follower Magazines (a value of $448.95) and a Gun Mag Warehouse T-Shirt. An equivalent prize will be awarded for residents in states with magazine restrictions.
  5. Two cases of Mountain House freeze dried assorted entrees in #10 cans, courtesy of Ready Made Resources (a $350 value),
  6. A $300 gift certificate from CJL Enterprize, for any of their military surplus gear,
  7. A 9-Tray Excalibur Food Dehydrator from Safecastle.com (a $300 value),
  8. A $300 gift certificate from Freeze Dry Guy,
  9. A $250 gift certificate from Sunflower Ammo,
  10. A roll of $10 face value in pre-1965 U.S. 90% silver quarters, courtesy of GoldAndSilverOnline.com, (currently valued at around $180 postpaid),
  11. Both VPN tunnel and DigitalSafe annual subscriptions from Privacy Abroad (a combined value of $195),
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Second Prize:

  1. A Glock form factor SIRT laser training pistol and a SIRT AR-15/M4 Laser Training Bolt, courtesy of Next Level Training, which have a combined retail value of $589,
  2. A FloJak EarthStraw “Code Red” 100-foot well pump system (a $500 value), courtesy of FloJak.com,
  3. Acorn Supplies is donating a Deluxe Food Storage Survival Kit with a retail value of $350,
  4. The Ark Instituteis donating a non-GMO, non-hybrid vegetable seed package–enough for two families of four, seed storage materials, a CD-ROM of Geri Guidetti’s book “Build Your Ark! How to Prepare for Self Reliance in Uncertain Times”, and two bottles of Potassium Iodate– a $325 retail value,
  5. $300 worth of ammo from Patriot Firearms and Munitions. (They also offer a 10% discount for all SurvivalBlog readers with coupon code SVB10P),
  6. A $250 gift card from Emergency Essentials,
  7. Twenty Five books, of the winners choice, of any books published by PrepperPress.com (a $270 value),
  8. Two cases of meals, Ready to Eat (MREs), courtesy of CampingSurvival.com (a $180 value),
  9. TexasgiBrass.com is providing a $150 gift certificate,
  10. Organized Prepper is providing a $500 gift certificate, and
  11. RepackBoxis providing a $300 gift certificate to their site.

Third Prize:

  1. A Royal Berkey water filter, courtesy of Directive 21 (a $275 value),
  2. A large handmade clothes drying rack, a washboard, and a Homesteading for Beginners DVD, all courtesy of The Homestead Store, with a combined value of $206,
  3. Expanded sets of both washable feminine pads and liners, donated by Naturally Cozy (a $185 retail value),
  4. Two Super Survival Pack seed collections, a $150 value, courtesy of Seed for Security,
  5. Mayflower Trading is donating a $200 gift certificate for homesteading appliances,
  6. Ambra Le Roy Medical Products in North Carolina is donating a bundle of their traditional wound care and first aid supplies, with a value of $208, and
  7. APEX Gun Parts is donating a $250 purchase credit, and
  8. SurvivalBased.com is donating a $500 gift certificate to their store.
  9. Montie Gearis donating a Y-Shot Slingshot and a Locking Rifle Rack. (a $379 value).

Round 54 ends on September 30st, so get busy writing and e-mail us your entry. Remember that there is a 1,500-word minimum, and that articles on practical “how to” skills for survival have an advantage in the judging.



How Will YOU Get the Family Together When the SHTF?, by T.W.

If you’re like most of us, your family is very often spread out over a fair-sized area during the course of the day. It’s not unusual for my immediate family of four to be spread out over an area spanning around 30 linear miles. I travel about 15 miles in one direction to work, with my wife traveling about 15 miles in the opposite direction. The kids are usually somewhere between my wife and me. This is by design on my part, although as my son gets older I am relying on him more and more as part of my plan to gather the family together in a SHTF scenario.

You’ve carefully stockpiled food, water, filtration ability, medicine, first aid supplies, batteries, weapons, and ammo. What good is any of that if your family is scattered and irretrievable when the SHTF?

My family and I lead busy lives. We’re at work, school, and sports events; the kids are with friends, out on dates, and you name it. I try to always know where they all are, as close as I can. I’m not obsessive, but I do keep track of everyone, as does my wife. Using today’s technology, we have installed app’s on all our phones that allows us to track each other in real time using the GPS on our phones. I know this sounds intrusive, but we have discussed this among ourselves. We all feel it’s good to know where we are in relation to each other, and we decided that the benefits of that far outweigh any potential privacy issues. Besides, from a Christian viewpoint, I am the head of my house, and knowing my children’s whereabouts IS my business. Thank God my kids are good Christian kids and agree with Dad on that point.

We have decided that, in these uncertain times, we want to be able to regroup our family unit as rapidly as possible if there is a situation that calls for us to bug out or otherwise bunker down. Much has been written regarding “bug out bags” and the like, so I won’t go into that here, other than to say that each of us has our own supplies that we keep with us at all times in a daypack. It’s not that hard to do, and it is upgraded on the fly to reflect the distance we’ll be away from home. Distance equals days in a situation where you may have to travel on foot to meet up with family, so you need to be prepared.

We live in the suburbs of a medium-sized city in the South. This city is intersected by three major interstate highways and numerous smaller state highways, and the road systems are laid out very well for a city of this size and age. Railways are still intact, as this town has been a major rail hub since before the Civil War. Many of them hadn’t seen regular use in many years, but recent expansions to our local industries have seen a resurgence of rail traffic, so the railroad routes are much better maintained than in years past. Vehicular traffic is pretty heavy in the mornings and afternoon rush times, but surprisingly low otherwise. There is plenty of vegetation along most of the roadways in this area (as in most of the South) that could be used as cover for traveling with a lower degree of detection from anyone stranded on the roads themselves.

Each member of my family has been told what to do if there’s ever a situation calling for us to get home ASAP. Home is the starting point, and the final rally point in our plan. Getting everyone there is priority number 1 during any emergency situation. Any potential bug out from there can only happen when the family unit is safe and ready.

If the vehicles are running, it’s as easy as one of us (depending on who’s working and who’s not) going for the one that isn’t able to drive, and everyone meet at home. If the vehicles are knocked out, as in a CME/EMP type event, well, that’s where it gets interesting, and this plan really goes into motion. “Motion” being the operative word. This plan calls for lots and lots of motion, as in moving and walking.

During working and school times, each of us are pretty much in the same location, and it’s pretty easy to know where everyone is. We all have with us at all times, highway/road maps with routes leading to home highlighted, from work/school, as well as some common locations such as friends houses. Each family member keeps this in their go bag. The maps themselves are pretty standard, downloaded from the Internet. However, they have been customized a great deal.

In the event of a major EMP-like event, my hope is that we are all together at home, or that at least some of us are there. If not, I have instructed my wife and our youngest, who is not yet 15, to stay put if a situation arises where the vehicles are knocked out. My son and/or I will come get them. However, the best laid plans of men can and will change, of course, so they might be forced to move before being rescued. Each route has predetermined rally points along it that I have instructed the wife and my youngest child to expect to see me or my son during travel.

As far the routes themselves, we have scouted them very well. The roads and highways are ones that we travel often– some of them daily, on our way to work and school. However, it is an ongoing process, as things are always changing due to construction, deforestation, even the changing seasons. Very often, when we go out, we discuss the roads, terrain features, buildings, traffic flow, and where the most likely choke points would be, if people were stranded. We discuss not only the roads but how and where to walk on each portion of the route towards our destinations. The maps are hand annotated with specific instructions in this regard. There are specific color codes drawn onto the maps, detailing which side of the road we should walk on, depending on the terrain and other features determined from previous scouting forays. I have decided that it will be best to avoid walking directly on the paved roads much of the time to avoid contact with other people. During this period, there will be chaos, confusion, and panic on the part of many. The last thing I want is to be attacked along the way, especially if my wife or children are traveling. Like I said, it may become necessary for one or more of us to travel alone, if things get sideways. I have implemented the plan to travel parallel to the roads and highways, instead of directly upon them as much as possible, taking advantage of terrain features, power lines, gas pipeline right of ways, and wooded areas as much as possible. Walking on a predetermined side of the highways and roads will give an added advantage; it will be much easier to find someone who is walking on the same side of the road as you are. Imagine if I walked past my son on the same stretch of highway, just because we randomly chose which side to walk on? Something seemingly as simple as that could spell disaster.

There are several rally points on the map as well. How many rally points along each route is determined by the distances involved as well as the lay of the land. One route has a fair-sized mountain, and it will be necessary to leave the roadside for a distance of a couple hundred yards to climb the mountain. There is a significant section of road that has a sheer drop on one side, narrowing down to granite walls on both sides at the top. So this particular section has a rally point on both sides, as well as the top. This section will take a bit of time, but there are well-established jeep/ATV trails that parallel the highway that we are very familiar with, so losing our bearings really isn’t that much of an issue.

We also discuss places along the way to avoid, such as bridge underpasses, and any buildings that are close to the road. There will definitely be times when it is impossible to avoid walking on the roadways themselves, such as crossing a bridge over a body of water, but these choke points will have to be scouted carefully before attempting to cross them. Underpasses especially can be hazardous, as they are a natural form of shelter from the sun and rain, and will likely be a gathering place for those unable or unwilling to walk. Avoid them if at all possible, and if you must get close or walk through them, use extreme caution.

If you have to cross a bridge or go through an underpass, take the most direct route; do not hesitate, and keep to available cover. If alone, walk steadily, keep your head on a swivel, scanning everything closer than a hundred meters. If traveling with a partner, one moves, the other is stopped, looking for threats. Leapfrog through the obstacle like that, using simple hand gestures to communicate. Voices are distracting and can easily be mistaken. Hand gestures are perfect for this particular situation; just don’t get too complicated.

Of great importance, especially concerning the other members of my family, is personal security during foot travel. My wife is a wonderful woman– a lovely, petite thing who has absolutely zero skills in anything resembling self defense. Our youngest is very much the same, albeit a very good high school athlete. My soon-to-be-18-years-old son is a very athletic kid, a crack shot, and has an advanced black belt in Taekwondo. As he gets older, I am teaching him more skills pertaining to actual hand to hand combat, which brings me to myself. For OPSEC purposes, I’ll not give details except to say that as a younger man I received advanced training in the military and had numerous opportunity to exercise those skills. I keep myself in shape, shoot often, and as any man who’s ever had training and experience in certain areas of training will tell you, you may get older, but the training never leaves you. It’s as fresh in my mind as it was over 30 years ago. I was watching a shooting competition on TV the other day, and a young guy popped off a group of shots, and challenged a fairly older shooter to do better. The older guy popped his pistol out, knocked all the targets down, and beat the younger guy’s time by nearly two seconds. The younger guy had a priceless look on his face. The older guy quipped, “Don’t mess with an old guy. We’ll just kill you.”

As for myself, I wouldn’t be afraid to grab my gear and set out along our route to go get my wife and child. I have my go bag setup for several days’ travel, and I keep my personal weapons stashed as well. My hope is that the sight of an ominous looking guy with a purposeful walk, dressed in full camo, carrying an AR10 (7.62/.308 of course), sidearm, knife, and tomahawk strapped to my back will be deterrent enough. My son, however, is not yet 18, so I am as yet unable to equip him with a weapon other than some hand weapons, which he is adept at using. Taekwondo training does include weapons training once you reach a certain level. As soon as he is legally able to be in possession, I plan to equip him as well as I legally can in our state, so he can also have his security situation augmented. If we have to travel to go get a family member, another concern is how to respond to nearly inevitable contact with others during the journey. I am a Christian, but I am also a realist, and I know that there simply is no way I can stop to help everyone I meet along the way. Given the sheer numbers of people that will be stranded along the roads and highways in the event that vehicles are knocked out, we plan to avoid contact with anyone we don’t know. This definitely presents a dilemma for us as Christians. I don’t know if I can just stand by and watch people in trouble, be it accidents or being attacked by opportunistic thugs. I guess I’ll cross that bridge when it looms ahead. I was taught in the military that the mission comes first. I understand that thought process, and if the mission is getting to my wife and/or child, I guess my thinking will lead me to just haul maximum tail away from whatever situation I come across, but it is definitely something to think about so as not to be blindsided when a situation pops up along the way. Above all, talk about this with your family. Not doing so will cause hesitation during an event, and any hesitation to act or avoid action can prove fatal. Trust me on that one.

Above all else, discuss your plans. Explain your concerns to your family. Show them the news. Let them know why you feel the way you do and why you see certain things as threats. A good resource is the NASA website, as they seem to have information regarding solar storms pretty often, which also shows these things aren’t fluke events– they happen all the time and will hit the earth again. A little history on the Carrington Event, Tunguska, and what might happen during an EMP resulting from a nuclear explosion. My kids are older teens, and they still are surprised when I tell them of such things. Of course, they didn’t grow up like I did, doing “duck and cover drills” in school in case the Soviets shot nuclear missiles at us, and they certainly won’t grow into adulthood learning the nuances of Soviet military tactics, like I did.

No, this brave new world is much more dangerous than the world I grew up in.

Bugging out with the family might become necessary (or bugging IN, if you’re so inclined) but in order to do either, you first must have the family together. In today’s world, that’s very likely going to involve putting your boots on the road to go get them. I hope I’ve given you some ideas. My plans are certainly not perfect, and we are always looking for ways to improve. Above all else, make a plan to reunite your loved ones if you ever need to. Failure to plan is planning to fail.



Letter: Starched Military Camouflage Uniforms

Good morning, Hugh,

I read your Thurs 9/18 post on using camo clothing that’s never been starched; how does one tell if a garment has ever been starched? I supposed this may apply to all garments, not just camo. (I reference the common military phrase “breaking starch” on utilities laundered by base personnel.)

Is there a way to purge the starch, to make sure it’s not affecting IR detection, since it may be difficult to tell if a particular garment has ever been starched? Or, does starch affect fabric fibers in such a way that the IR susceptibility cannot be eliminated? Thanks. – Nosmo

JWR Replies: Typically when a BDU uniform has been starched and pressed, the outlines of the buttons show distinctly through the pocket flaps, there are sometimes remnants of vertical creases, and garments generally take on a whitish sheen that is noticeable even to the naked eye. The best way to train your eye for these telltales is to visit a large thrift store. Take a few minutes to look through all of their surplus utility uniforms, and find a shirt that is obviously starched, and examine it closely. Then compare that one with other uniforms. Once you’ve developed “the eye” for it, you can easily spot other uniforms that have previously been starched, even if they have been subsequently laundered several times. The button outlines showing through the pocket flaps are the key indicators.

I am not certain if the IR-reflective sheen from starch can ever be fully removed. To be safe, it is best to buy uniforms that show no signs of ever having been starched or pressed.

By the time the U.S. Army reached the ACU-issue period, starching was not allowed. You can be relatively certain that none of the OCP (“Multicam”) uniforms that you buy surplus have ever been starched.