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  1. I am not familiar with the Remington para-ord so can’t speak about their quality.

    But in my opinion, Colt screwed up when they tightened up the tolerances of the 1911 in the Series 70s model in order to increase accuracy and satisfy the paper punchers.

    The looseness of the WWII 1911s is what made them so reliable. Certain gunsmiths supposedly could restore that reliability while maintaining the accuracy but they weren’t cheap and by that time the 1911s weren’t either.

    Amazing how our MBAs can destroy iconic brands. I don’t know why our foreign enemies bother to train saboteurs.

  2. BTW Remington’s customer service is horrible. I emailed them about a new in box Rem 1911R1. Had to literally pull the trigger TWICE to get the hammer to fall. Their quality assurance…isn’t! They assigned a ticket #, and nothing thereafter. I gutted the 1911 and replaced with Ed Brown quality parts and resolved the issue myself.

  3. As most on this thread probably already know, Remington has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy – again. Maybe once they get a new owner they will commit a little more $$$ to servicing the products they sell. Apparently the Navajo Nation is the leading contender to purchase the company, so we will see what bag of worms that opens up??

    1. Sadly the Navajo Nation spokesmen released a statement that they would likely not make firearms if they acquire Remington. Take that as you will not sure why buy it and not make the sole product of said company.

      1. I did see where they would probably discontinue AR style firearms but not their long guns. I don’t think it mentioned handguns one way or the other. It also stated they would pursue “smart gun” technology. Guess they’re thinking some kind of biometric device so only one person could fire the gun? Not sure what else could come from that mindframe…

  4. I bought my first pistol in 1973, a Colt Mk IV Series 70. The feed ramp was a bit rough, so a polishing was in order. After that, it was a reliable pistol. I shot it to the point i cracked the frame just ahead of the slide stop. IPSC was in its infancy then, but I competed in Columbia, MO with guys like Armantrout and what’s-his-name, who started his famous shooting school there. The pistol was submerged in dreadful mud a few times during a very involved string of challenges shot after four days of rain. The only result was I got a face full of mud every time I pulled the trigger. But the Colt never failed.
    The Springfield Armory Mil Spec models multiplied in my safe, but again, like most 1911s, hand finishing and fitting was required to get them running about half the time.
    At my job, Raytheon, execs would drift down to my area in the shop during lunch- so they wouldn’t be seen- to inquire about what pistol they should get. “Um…..I want to buy a pistol for uh….target shooting.” I’d reply, “You want a pistol for shooting people.” Them: “Well….yeah.” So I’d send them to a store for a Mil Spec SA .45, and about 50% of them came back with issues. I had a kit in my tool crib stocked with all sorts of hand finishing tools and abrasives. I’d hand the polished pistol back to them with instructions to shoot it a few hundred times and to bring it back if there were further problems. None returned.
    I got tired of doing SA’s job for them, so started referring them to Glock. Never had a problem after that. Of course, I always sent them to a fabulous local trainer to minimize the danger to themselves and everyone around them.
    My 1911s gather dust since I learned how to run a Glock trigger. Haven’t used them in 15 years. It’s all about Continuity of Fire. If you think you’ll only need six rounds in your fight, you might look up the Peter Soulis Incident on line. After that, search “Why One Officer Carries 145 Rounds”. Each involved an officer and only ONE suspect. None were on drugs or alcohol. The latter example was a SWAT training officer who struck his assailant nearly 18 times (as I recall) with a .45 using the latest and greatest street load. The fight lasted about five minutes! Any 10 hits would have proved fatal- over time. The bad guy died in the ER, not at the scene. Pistols are relatively weak. Prepare yourself for a Failure To Stop.
    Like the 1911s in storage, I standardized on what works. I have a lot of Glocks that use the same magazines, ammunition, holsters, etc. Not 9 different pistols that use different ammunition, magazines, holsters. This is why the military doesn’t let everyone bring their own weapons. Logistics. A few niche guns, for sure, but the main effort is in one caliber, model. Sometimes I’m going into a non-permissive-environment….so a tiny .38 is in order.
    Lately, your primary weapon just might be your pickup truck if you live in a big city. Ground clearance. Do. Not. Stop.

    1. Thanks for that detailed comment! You really should expand it into a feature article. That might be a writing contest prize winner.

    2. Yes, very good info…As much as i like the feel in the hand and the aesthetics of the 1911, I have finally abandoned them. I carry Glocks, as ugly and clumsy as they are, at least they are reliable.

  5. James,
    You have a great resource in Pat. I like reading his work! His writing triggers a flood of thought I have to write in the moment or I’ll forget. But I’ll give your suggestion some thought soon. Right now, I have a broken water line in the city- my side of the meter, of course! It’s amazing how important water gets when you don’t HAVE IT.
    I ran a hose from my front faucet to my neighbor’s front faucet. Turned my house valve off so I don’t back-feed the leak. Works just FINE. They’re out of town for a while, but I have permission to use their water until I get repairs done. Just passing this along for those who might be able to use it WHEN their line breaks.
    I’ll pay my neighbor’s June water bill!

  6. RE: Gotur6 and Remington Firearms; Quite the disappointment when the Supreme Court allowed civil lawsuits to go forward to sue Remington over the Sandy Hook shootings. I am sure that contributed to their bankruptcy. It is a shame, that company was a fine company that produced quality products, but has been mismanaged and is a ghost of what it was in the past.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/11/12/778487920/supreme-court-allows-sandy-hook-families-case-against-remington-to-proceed

    Especially when S.397 is the law of the land, and this bill was specifically designed to block civil lawsuits when their products are unlawfully used to injure or kill others.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/senate-bill/397/text

    Seems like more and more we see the unraveling of the Rule Of Law. Perhaps the selling of Remington to an Indian Nation was in fact over lawsuits, as the Indian Nations are immune from civil lawsuits according to the Supreme Court.

    https://www.porterlaw.com/native-american-tribes-are-immune-from-civil-lawsuits-says-u-s-supreme-court/

    But, once again that is assuming that the next Supreme Court case against them will be done following the rule of law, or past cases. The way things are going, just because past cases say NO, now it is YES. Everything is upside down.

  7. Regarding: “If however, I’m out in the wilderness and carrying this gun, I’ll have the 230-gr JHP +P load in it for dangerous four-legged critters.”

    Really? Rather than a solid, more penetrating design than a hollow point?

  8. Can’t go wrong with a 1911. Nice review on the Remington. I must admit, I have never shot one. 1911’s are well balanced and are a pleasure to shoot. However, modern polymer designs, with excellent reliability, weight reduction, good triggers, good ergonomics, and better magazine capacity have moved me away from the 1911 for EDC and “Schumer Hits the Fan” situations.

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