The Survivalist’s Odds ‘n Sods

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1. re:hollowpoint
   Just an observation.
   The term race card and race baiting gets used a lot.
   His white lawyer is quoted as mentioning 3 white officers vs. black law abiding citizen.
   Guess it works both ways in the media.
   Everyone hates lawyers till they need one.

2. I seriously doubt the 3.8% mortality rate. Due to the fact that most cases of Covid 19 go unreported due to lack of testing and underreported (lying China). I suspect it’s more like 1%.

   1. TexasScout,

      That underreporting goes both ways (especially in China), for deaths and mild cases. Also everybody needs to remember that probably around 50% of reported cases are still sick. Recovery is still up in the air. I believe the CFR will settle somewhere around 2.5%, which is still higher than the Spanish Flu of 1918, and 20 times higher than seasonal flu.

      Kid’s infection rate is starting to pick up, was approx. 3%, now it’s at 13%.

      JG,

      My personal opinion of hospitals being over run if we continue to double our cases every couple of days will be much sooner than mid to late May. Having been a critical care nurse for 30 years now, there are several reasons I can personally give my take on why:
      1. As cases come in, healthcare workers will become infected, be it mild or severe they will be asked to quarantine…then you are dealing with a shortage in staff (we already have this all the time, can’t tell you how many times I’ve been bribed with time and a half pay, plus cash bonuses to work extra).
      2. We will quickly run out of all supplies, not just PPE’s, equipment (especially vents) and meds, probably including IV fluids.
      3. Even in the beginning many healthcare workers and many ancillary staff (ancillary staff is just as important in running a hospital as direct care givers) will not come in due to fear, for their families and themselves.
      4. Once direct health care givers do not have PPE’s they will also go home. Most people have families and in the end they will usually come first.

      I would also go home, please don’t judge me by this, I have taken care of hundreds of infectious patients over the years with serious life threatening diseases. I have paid my dues. My kids and grandkids do come first.

      1. TXNurse,

         Anyone with a “lick of sense” would not judge you harshly for putting your family above work. In my humble opinion, as a nod to LTC David Grossman, it is the sheep in the population who expect “the authorities” to do whatever is necessary to make their lives free of risk, wont, and discomfort. If the sheepdog suffers in his fight against the wolves, well, that is the sheepdog’s job in the opinion of the sheep.

         If you pay the ultimate price in the coming pandemic, you will be lucky to get mentioned later on a small brass plaque at your hospital.

         Look at how many people say, “Thank you for your service,” to veterans today. Frankly, it annoys me. I am always tempted to say, “What did you ever do for your country?”

         I also wonder just how many contribute to an organization like Wounded Warriors, Tunnel2Towers, Disabled Amvets, etc., in order to make up in some small way the fact that they stayed comfortably at home, eating pizza, going to the mall, and hanging out with their friends while others answered the call.

         Do what you can to help people but draw a line beyond which you do not go. You have people who are far more important in your life than the stranger arriving in the ER who has been listening to coronavirus media coverage for as long as you have and who did absolutely nothing to prepare for it. Life’s about choices. Choices have consequences.

3. The latest knowledgeable prediction I have found is the U.S. will have around a million corono cases by May. By early to mid May the hospitals will be full across the nation. The number of infected doubles every 5-6 days which will quickly overrrun our ability to cope. Self quarantine, prayer, prepare and help where you can. It’s going to be a rough ride.

   1. From your post: “It’s going to be a rough ride.”

      We think so too.

4. There’s already medical folks that think the government should “requisition” masks from regular folks here. Of course none are wanting come do it themselves because they know what will happen to thieves because as Uncle Ted says “ya can’t do this in France”.
   Fear is an evil driving tool that is way more dangerous than the virus.

5. Thank you for that cleaner list information

   1. I noticed that most of the cleaners in the EPA document were Peroxide or Bleach based. Ecolab (one of companies listed on document provided) produces another product called ProForce that we bought at Sams Club a year or two ago that is meant for medical & non-medical use including hospitals/clinics and kills 99.9% of Germs including HIV. If they have it, I’m guessing that would be better than nothing. It’s made in the USA.

      ProForce’s active ingredients are Dimethyl ammonium chloride based (Octyl Decyl, Dioctyl, & Didecyl), & Alkyl dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride based.

      I’m guessing that any medical approved bacteriacide/virucide/fungucide/disinfectant would prove very effective for hard floors, surfaces, etc. (Please read labels & use warnings of any product you intend to use).

      Stay vigilant!

      1. https://archive.epa.gov/pesticides/oppad001/web/html/influenza-disinfectants.html

         This has a chart you can view and down load with a list of disinfectants and thier main components.

         Also there is alot of buzz about using nano silver

6. re:hollowpoint

   We do not live in Mayberry and never have. But thing have gone to the stage of Sierra Hotel Tango Foxtrot.

   Mayberry was a very nice place…

7. Re. U.S. Military purchase of 7.62×51 mm NATO rifles

   What will be next? Toyota Tacoma pickups?

   1. Do the math on the cost of each unit.
      I`m not going to print it now, I`m embarrassed I did it wrong, simple as it is.
      Yeah, I guess they`re flush with money.
      Wonder what the civilian version of those rifles will cost?
      I`ll bet a lot less.
      Barrett has to be grinning ear to ear.
      Dan

      1. The one MRAD rifle that I have seen for sale ( retail ) was $5000, without optics, last summer.

         1. I have a Barrett MRAD in 300 Win Mag. With a Nightforce Beast optic and a Thunderbeast Ultra suppressor. Even with all that top of the line gear 546 of those rifles would be less than 2.5 million. Yet we taxpayers get to pay 10 million for just the rifles. When is enough enough?

            1. You need to read the whole contract. It will be published somewhere online. When DOD buys the rifles how does the military support them. It’s not unusual to buy spare parts on the weapon contract, and those could add up as DOD puts spare parts on empty shelves. The military will need operators manuals, repair manuals, and they will buy training on how to repair the rifles. I don’t know if the price is fair but I do know there is more to it than just purchasing the weapon.

8. My thoughts on the virus so far…..

   Well, the virus looks to be real, targeted mainly at the old people, but I think it is being over dramatized on purpose.
   1. It’s to reduce the population of useless eaters. (older people)
   2. It’s being blamed for the financial collapse that’s happening.
   3 Although supposedly there is no vaccine produced I wouldn’t be surprised to see one magically appear and it become mandatory for everyone to take.
   4. It’s a good excuse to go cashless and all transactions become digital.
   5. When martial law is declared it will be the perfect time to round up and get rid of all dissidents.

   1. I agree. It’s a complete control thing. The disease, the identification, the TEST, and some say a vaccine is almost ready. One or two companies supposedly sent one in for review and human testing. It’s all about control and probably forcing the vaccine on all. What the virus doesn’t take care of maybe the vaccine will. The cash issue and dangers of it. To get us all cashless-track all purchases and where abouts. The whole thing is fishy and there have been quite a few articles on it. Dr Mercola (one of the natural health drs who’s articles are screened out by Google (unless his name is typed in search) had a good one today. We all need to pray and stay healthy.

9. “I’ve concluded that there will be a pressing need for anyone over age 60 or who is immuno-compromised to self-isolate, once the virus is reported spreading in your county.” – James Wesley Rawles

   This old coot will be forwarding Mr. Rawles’ sound advice to my classmates.

10. Attn: CuzMike –
    It’s not called ‘Martial Law’ anymore. Outdated term.
    It’s now ‘Shelter in Place’.
    Sounds nicer- less sinister.
    In Boston, after the Marathon Bombing, and the resulting manhunt
    for the Bomber, residents were ‘requested’ to Shelter in Place.
    Those that didn’t, and were caught on the street, were promptly
    arrested and taken into custody.

11. Can someone provide me with information concerning PM2.5 filters? Here’s one offering on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Activated-Purifier-Replaceable-Compatible-Majority/dp/B084ZKQXZP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1M3HJV6912YK8&dchild=1&keywords=n95+filters+replacement&qid=1583676477&sprefix=N95+filters%2Caps%2C210&sr=8-1

    They are described as being N95 filter replacements, but since the manufacturer isn’t identified, I am a little leery. Do they, in fact, meet N95 standards?

    What specific face mask are these filters intended for?

    They are still generally available, so if they are the “real deal,” people might benefit from buying the reusable face masks and a reasonable supply of these filters.

    1. If there is no regulatory agency that states these are true N95 then they aren’t. If you can’t identify the manufacturer then none of the information that is provided can be verified. I guess it’s better to have something than nothing but I wouldn’t expect anything out of thoes filters.

    2. We’ve noticed a bunch of masks on amazon with the N-95 tag associated recently. Funny they were all sold out a few weeks back costing north of $50 a piece. Now these new batches are sold for $30 for a dozen and all have the N-95 tag on them.

       Umm.

    3. I placed an order over six weeks ago, and the delivery date keeps being push forward, they say now March 15th, and if not received by then the order could be cancel for a refund, I wonder if they were counting on a order that was never shipped.

    4. Survivorman

       https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/default.html

       Here is info

12. Here’s a link on why the coronavirus is probably sparing children. The NBC headline is misleading, it’s not quite as baffling as it seems. Basically, one of the CoV’s that causes the common cold, called CoV-OC43, is similar enough to Covid-19 that it provides some temporary immunity. Since kids get colds so frequently, they have lots of antibodies for CoV-OC43 in their systems even though it is a short-loved immunity. It appears to work well enough against Covid-19. In the link, scroll down to the graph. The yellow bar is the cold virus, the blue bar the Covid-19.

    http://virological.org/t/remarkable-age-distribution-of-oc43-vs-sars-cov-2-in-china/399

13. Thanks Alongfortheride, duly noted.

14. Conspiracy dept. – The hotel that Seattle bought for quarantine is “rumored” to have been purchased much earlier, and that they really want to use it for homeless relocation, or for their “safe” heroin shooting galleries they keep wanting to establish in King County. Either way, it puts a bunch of dope addicts somewhere else, and the self-righteous libs in Seattle won’t have to look at them. (or smell them)

15. This was published 5 hours ago on the Teller Report and this type of Triage may come to the USA due to a lack of appropriate medical facilities…

    Italian doctors’ associations recommend using an age limit for admitting patients in intensive care, Italian media report. Younger people should be given priority with this measure. The association considers this necessary “to reserve resources that can be very scarce for people who have a greater chance of survival and who can be saved for more years”. Italian hospitals can no longer handle the number of patients due to the high number of coronavirus infections.

16. Don’t know if this has been posted here yet, but this is a great map to track coronavirus. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/coronavirus-map

17. Wonder if they will close down all the Starbucks stores in Seattle? They did in China. Oh boy, that will be some kinda freak out if they can’t get their crack-in-cup!

    1. Oh, what a wicked sense of humor on that one. I enjoy your wisecracks (in or out of a cup) RKRGRL68.

       Carry on

18. Our healthcare system will be overwhelmed, even with conservative estimates of impact of COVID-19. Many of us will be caring for our loved ones at home. This link is to a great home care article. It’s aimed at pandemic flu, but since symptoms of COVID-19 are virtually the same, same information applies. Covers care for both adults and children.

    https://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/files/good_home_treatment_of_influenza_10pt.pdf

    1. IrishEyes,

       Your link is an excellent article for everybody to print. Dr Gratton Woodson, published this around 2006. I printed this then and gave to all my family. This is a very easy to understand guide for basic home care of Influenza patients. I had forgotten about this guide, located some copies in my files, will print more and send out to family/friends again.
       I used to read a lot of his writings back then, he was very involved in Pandemic Planning.

       Thanks for the reminder!

19. Two Strains of Coronavirus and New Methods of Transmission

    The source is not trustworthy. It should be considered disinformation until proven otherwise. The Chicoms will lie in many ways and at all opportunities, and not necessarily to save face. There is at this time, ample reason to believe it is man made. To start, do a search on 2019-nCov. Why not refer to the virus as all other viruses are referred to, by their scientific name? The WHO changed the name to obscure it’s origin. It worked nicely and still causes confusion. The WHO is not our friend. It is a Globlist tool as is the U. N. If uncertain, it is better to assume that we cannot know the origin, and put the effort into determining how it behaves in the wild.

20. I know I keep repeating myself, but Hydrogen Peroxide! Many years ago, a stay-at-home-mom who was a Chemist, I think, by profession decided to do a controlled test on various “sanitizers” (things bored moms do… LOL). She published her results on Facebook (back when I actually used Fakebook). She took several petri dishes and I believe she used bleach, Lysol, hydrogen peroxide, and rubbing alcohol, or something like that. It’s been years, so my memory is hazy. You know all the cool cleaning products we learned to use that say “Kills 99% of germs” on the label? She looked at the bacteria under a microscope after 5 minutes, then 10 minutes, for each petri dish. In her tests, she found that after 5 minutes, hydrogen peroxide had eliminated the bacteria, and after 10 minutes, the other products seemed to work pretty good. I learned that a full 5 minutes is required to kill the germs and that hydrogen peroxide won in the tests. When I became immunocompromised from cancer, I began to rely on simple hydrogen peroxide. Which is why I’m repeating myself here, hoping someone new will see that using this simple and inexpensive product will go a long way. Many stores in the “hot spots” have run out of a lot of the usual products. The other day, I took a large package of baby wipes from Costco (because they are inexpensive and very strong), poured hydrogen peroxide into the package and let it sit. Voila, sanitizing wipes, just as an example. It just makes sense to me to pick up bottles of hydrogen peroxide wherever it can be found. Regulars, please forgive the repeat of information.

    1. I’ve read that peroxide and white vinegar kill many viruses and bacteria. They are not supposed to be stored mixed together ( 2 spray bottles) spray on a surface together and it apparently kills them. I do it all the time at home well before this problem. Another thing many don’t think of is coconut oil on the hands and skin. It is antiviral, antibiotic and anti fungal. It also helps skin to not become dry and creates a barrier. I’ve heard on the new aside from hand washing etc it’s important to make sure dry skin is kept moist to repair. The tiny cracks allow the skin to be violated thus germs may enter through dry skin. Everyone’s hands do seem drier between winter heat plus the almost constant washing.

    2. NO NO NO – Please don’t rely on this.
       Hydrogen peroxide will very quickly lose it’s effectiveness when poured into baby wipes – both because of the increase surface area and air interaction and potentially (likely) it will react with one of the many components of the baby wipes and become inactive quickly.
       I have experience testing antimicrobials and I highly recommend that you keep peroxide in an air tight container – such as the one it came in – and then either spray it as needed – thoroughly drenching the area, and leaving it wet for as long as it takes to evaporate.

       1. Thank you for your response and experience.

21. I have a Barrett MRAD in 300 Win Mag. With a Nightforce Beast optic and a Thunderbeast Ultra suppressor. Even with all that top of the line gear 546 of those rifles would be less than 2.5 million. Yet we taxpayers get to pay 10 million for just the rifle. When is enough enough?

22. OK, PSA here folks. Just realized that the jug of Clorox I grabbed the other day is the “No Splash Formula” which isn’t really Clorox at all. It can’t be used to disinfect anything and is some sort of thicker(thus no-splash) whitener and brightner for your laundry I guess. Not being someone who ever has “whites” to launder I guess I was oblivious to this latest entrant to the cast of laundry characters. Found a basic bottle of bleach today to replace it with but thought I’d share this info in case I’m not the last person in the world to realize this stuff is out there, looks like regular Clorox but isn’t a disinfectant!

23. SaraSue
    Awesome idea about the baby wipes! I’m gonna try that out!!
    Thanks!

    1. Poster above suggests we *not* try this. Apparently has more experience and it may not be effective. It was just an idea I had.

24. FYI, a peek at our local shortages we’re seeing already in the local Wallyworld and Sam’s stores here in the Midwest. Bulk rice and beans, bulk TP, pretty much all hand sanitizer and clorox wipes. Noticeable shortage in Tylenol, ibruprofen, cold supplements, limits on bottled water. I fear when the Rx shortages start the older generations will really start to feel the pinch.

25. Did I lose my comment? This is a test.

26. With the L and S types, I heard it the other way around! The S type is the faster spreader, but the L type creates more of the serious problems. Some even have both strains at the same time!

    3 weeks ago, a whistleblower vid was taken down as I was watching. It had cases in China at 175,000 and 23,000 dead for a 13% death rate. If that’s true, China has well over a million cases now.

    Also, heard that in one case, a person was infected by their dog. The person and dog were both tested and came up positive. Dogs sniff everything! Fecal transmission is also possible, so that may be the way the dog was infected. So keep your dogs away from others!

27. I read how Sars was cov 2 mers cov 4. So I wonder why this is 19. 2019 or were there more lesser cold viruses named between 2014 (Mers) and this. I also read that the test is the SARS Cov 2 test. So I am confused.

    1. Anonomous

       There are 7
       Known coronaviruses that infect people, 4 have been around for decades and cause about 15% of common cold viruses each year. Number 5 is SARS which was discover in 2002, number 6 is MERS which was discovered in 2014 and now number 7 is SARS nCOV – 2, which is the name of the virus, because it is very similar to the first SARS virus. They call the disease caused from SARS COV – 2
       COVID – 19, they are one and the same, but has caused some confusion. Hope that helps.

       SURVIVORMAN99,
       Thanks, nice post, I completely agree about choices!

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