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  1. Re. man sentenced to 1 year in federal prison for illegal marijuana

    What was this man’s crime? Who has he harmed? Whose rights has he violated?

    Police State 1 Individual Liberty 0

    1. When you cause an explosion that lifts your garage off its foundation, severely burns you and your wife and could have killed your child (but fortunately did not) I think you deserve a year in jail for being stupid. His wife got only 2 days for the marijuana so I would say his 1 year was essentially for being stupid and not really for marijuana.

      1. JBH, so coudha-wouldha-shouldha and being stupid are crimes? Great. Let’s mandate government IQ tests. Below what score should we send them to federal prison?

        1. I think my test would be more of a practical test rather than written. I think I would simply watch and see if you can refrain from blowing up your attached garage with your family in your house and neighbors next door. Kind of a simple pass/fail test.

    2. This is a terrible example to try to make an argument of Police State. In the pursuit of individual liberty, you think it is okay to have 34 lbs of marijuana and extract the “butane honey oil” with harsh chemicals with obvious intent to distribute? Not to mention, have your lab in a townhouse and knock your garage off the foundation? What about the damage that would have been done to your neighbor’s attached structure? Innocent? I don’t think so. To answer your questions, the crime is possession and manufacturing with intent to distribute, he harmed himself, his wife and most likely his neighbor’s property and lastly, you don’t have to simply violate a right to put others in fairly dangerous situations.

      1. Tactical Dad, you answered 1 of 3 questions I asked. I’m sorry but this man’s activities are vices not crimes. They are criminal strictly by statute and statutory law. The legal term is ‘mala prohiba’. The phrase is Latin and means ‘wrong only because it is prohibited’. In other words, they are not harming others.

        I have no moral authority over this man and neither do you. Using government force (ultimately with a gun to his head) against persons not harming others is immoral. If you have a moral philosophy other than the principle of non-aggression, please articulate such.

        1. Montana Guy, I wish I could side with you, because I’m not a fan of all of society’s rules. However, your logic is ridiculous, and is exactly why nobody will take a libertarian seriously. Lets all do what we want, as long as nobody else is supposedly bothered, and he with the most gold gets to shape the world he wants.

          Fact of the matter is, he had a drug lab. The drug lab blew up. People and property were hurt in the explosion. This is not a vice, more like criminal activity. He is lucky to have only received a year sentence.

          A much better example of police state? Perhaps, the tax assessors snooping around.

          1. Tactical Dad,you obviously don’t understand Libertarianism,get the book”Libertarianism” by D. Boaz and read it. This person was obviously using improper techniques for his goal(that has been done for over 6,000 years). What if he had been reloading and a primer had set off powder and caused the same damage? As a “Dad” are your “tactical” weapons not a threat to your children and neighbors? Should they be immediately removed to a secure armory? Should your ammunition be removed to a proper magazine(ammunition storage facility,not the weapon feeding device)? Should you reloading ammunition,if you choose to do it at home be considered a threat to you,your spouse ,children and neighbors? Should any bleach,ammonia or other potentially harmful chemicals be removed? Maybe we can get Tipper Gore to come up with more warning labels or have Michelle Obama decide how many “tactical” devices you can have before you are classified as a “Threat” or a “Gun runner” with intent to distribute.

        2. He endangered others by running criminal incompetent a drug lab, i wonder if he´d implemented and followed any safety rule About chemical Hazards.

          Poisonous fumes for example, a fire and explosive Hazard it was.

          The Rights he clearly violated was the Right of his neighbours to be reasonably safe from those things

    3. I bet that you would be hopping mad if a hash lab exploded next door to where you live.
      If you want to get upset by the “Police State” as you call it read the article about the clergyman in Spokane.

      1. NormiChuck, yes I would be hopping mad. Mad at myself for choosing to buy property next to this couple (or property that they would be attracted to). Folks have the Liberty to move. I would be thinking about exercising that Liberty.

        1. Understood.

          Neighbor, my convictions are grounded in God’s natural laws, an area of study seemingly indoctrinated out of American minds. I politely ask simple yet fundamental questions regarding the rights and truths delineated in our DOC. Seldom will anyone answer them. Some responses were deemed unfit for publishing by SB. Why?

          “The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.” – H.L. Mencken

  3. Hmm, NW turkey population, the turkeys were introduced into the area and survived. Yu know it sure is funny how man is always trying to improve on mother nature and a lot of the times ends up screwing things up royally and making matters worse. Yes, there has been some success, but in the end, did it really do any good.
    CWD, From what I’ve read, this all started someplace in colorado with farm ? raised deer and elk that was able to get back into the wild some 25 to 35 yrs ago. And according to some reports, it was safe to eat the meat of the cwd animals if certain rules were met. Tell that to the families of two or three hunters ( I think ) who died from eating the meat of sick animals, Did they goof up and not follow the rules? Good question. Now I’ll get down off of my soap box and shut up.

  4. Interesting…
    As of 0700 on Christmas Eve, the video of the two female county tax assessors trespassing “measuring the space” inside on a man’s property has disappeared! Taken down by YouTube because of a “privacy claim by a third party.”

    1. Re: Turkeys. In the Flathead Valley we have more turkeys than you can shake a stick at.
      I suppose it’s nice to have them around but good lord are they stupid.Ive watched an old hen with ten chicks under her wings stand in a hellacious rain storm when shelter under a big tree was five feet away.Wait a minute! Maybe they are Democrats!
      Whenever we cook one it’s like chewing a rubber eraser.So we don’t.

    1. Your olfactory abilities are good.

      Bonner County officials put in a “privacy violation” claim to YouTube and got the video taken down. Here is North Country Off Grid’s video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NDT6j92hPQ

      Others have mirrored it, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88_T1DGEVtw

      The original video showed up in a search, and I was able to watch it, so it may have been unblocked, although it doesn’t show in North Country Off Grid’s video list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_tPOcpCmuQ

  7. I cut and pasted the link to the county assessor trespass video into my search bar and was finally able to find and watch it on youtube. Interesting that they disabled the hyperlink though….
    I had this same trespass situation with our county assessor in my county in Wyoming.

    1. Is the county assesor video of them trespassing on the property of North Country off grid? If so looks like they have been having on going battles with the county for quite a few months now. Good to see somebody isn’t just taking it from them and actually fighting back for their rights.

  8. Re: Spokane Pastors Arrest.
    If everything in the article is true and correct as I believe it is and there are witnesses and
    hopefully video,then even a dumb lawyer could file a complaint for Violation of Civil Rights.
    The F.B.I. is required to investigate all such complaints.
    That being said the outcome of any such investigation will depend greatly on the political
    leanings of the Agent In Charge of the Spokane Field Office of the F.B.I. and the U.S Attorney.
    The pastor does not need to file the complaint.Any citizen who witnessed the arrest can file the complaint.
    The law works both ways.Sometimes.

  10. Fifty years ago, I was living in a drafty, WWII-era wooden barracks on Marine Corps Base , Camp Pendleton. Fifty years and one week ago, my buddy Roy and I walked over to the PX to do some Christmas shopping. Once there, we encountered a Christmas tree lot. I suggested we buy a tree and put it up in the barracks. We dragged it by its trunk the mile back to our government-provided home. An easy hike compared to some we had been on.

    The next day one of the crusty old senior NCOs asked if we did really have a tree in the barracks. When he heard “Yes”, he spread the word. Some sergeants went home to Fallbrook or Vista that afternoon and brought back a stand and some ornaments. Other carried in boxes full of goodies the next day.

    Back in 1969 the Marine Corps was not known for tenderness or kindness. That night though, we barracks residents worked together to make the tree resplendent in its beauty. Tenderness and kindness, with nary an F-Bomb, prevailed.

    May each of you know the kindness and tenderness that the Spirit carries into our lives and open to grace.

    Carry on

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