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  1. Concur.

    I owned a restaurant for ten years. My first nine-years and nine-months were invested in repetitively learning to do the basics.

    I grew-up on a farmer surrounded by four grandparents and aunts and uncles and a passel of older cousins. With all that mentoring, plowing a straight row required a decade of loops and various wanderings.

    My dear friend Dee mastered Interior Decorating after a decade of comparatives (then immediately succumbed to dementia).

    My grandparents were exquisitely skilled at parenting. My parents took a while to develop the knack.

  2. Interesting note about the 10,000 hour rule. Traditionally, it took at least 5 years for an apprentice to make it to master in a classical trade. At full time work, 5 years is about 10,000 hours, with time off for a little R&R once in a while. Journeyman level could be achieved in 2 years if the apprentice had decent talent to begin with. The difference is a master could work independently (self-employed) in his trade, a journeyman could not, even though they could demonstrate basic competencies.

    But even at that, a new master still had a lot to learn in his trade (multiple techniques, styles, applications). Masters of significant reputation typically did not have less than 20,000 hours of experience/training, and those at the top of their trade had 40,000 hours or more (20 years), which is where across the board expertise (excellence) really kicks in.

    Nowadays, in the states, journeyman level is roughly equivalent to classical master, meaning you have to be journeyman certified to work on your own in most trades. That is roughly 9,000 hours of experience and training. But modern techniques have expedited the learning curve a tad.

    For most things, 10,000 hours really is a minimum for achieving any sort of successful proficiency in a way of life. Prepping is a way of life.

  3. A very apt topic, but in the Redoubt, we became familiar with the Suzuki method of music education.

    The salient point he taught was that quality of time spent learning was far, far, and away more important than time spent rehearsing. He used 10,000 hours of poor instruction would never achieve what quality could in 1,000 hours, and his objective was that a child should be an excellent musician within 1,000 hours.

    Quality means everything. Find the best instruction you can. Do not waste time and money on mediocre learning, but actively pursue good education and good instructors.

    Don’t be a ‘buy and store but never take classes’ gun owner or else you could be who Proverbs speaks of in 26:10:

    “Like an archer who wounds at random is he who hires a fool or any passer-by.”NIV

    Seek Wisdom. Prov. 2:10 “For wisdom will enter your heart, and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul.”NIV

    God Bless and keep your snow shovel handy. Big snows are headed for the Sierra and Rocky mountains. We’ve received over three feet and now it’s settling and collapsing roofs here and there as the transition to wet rain is happening.

  4. One lesson from this is that those preppers who are practicing & learning skills, are much more likely to survive than preppers who stock up but don’t practice their skills.

  5. I won’t disagree with the general point. What I would add is that for some people no where near that amount of repetition is necessary to learn a skill. While for others no amount of repetition will teach them the skill. People are different and have different innate abilities. Some people will choose to be opposed to whatever is being taught until they starve or freeze to death. Also it isn’t necessary, in most cases, to be an expert. I like to cook, some of my meals are pretty good, some are not. All are edible and will keep me alive.

  6. Good article so far. Electrical apprenticeship, 800 classroom hours learning the math and engineering and science of the trade, 7200 work hours. You get your journeyman’s card. Now the apprenticeship really begins. After another two years, working with much more experienced people, journeyman’s card in hand, you finally start being one of those “more experienced” people. After another couple of years, and testing, and studying, and finding a sponsor, you can take the Master’s exam. Even then, you need ,
    continuing education, just to keep up.

    After 38 years when folks would ask me to describe my skill levels, my answer would always be “I’m the best there is at what I do, but I still don’t know enough”. No matter what you do, no matter what your goals, the learning never ever stops.

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