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1. “He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” Luke 22:36

   What Jesus is saying here just before his departure, is to be well armed. In his time it was armed by swords in our time it is a well regulated militia. Self defense is not just for the defense of self or defense of others but also defense against an occupying force. Typically those forces have more weapons and stock than us, but come under the guise “We’re here to take your guns, food and water storage and now private property for the common good of all the citizens we protect and who have elected us to public office.”

   Their are so many churches and flavors out there, my family now home-churches as we home-school. There are many resources out there for you to do your own bible studies within your own families and we get more out of it. We use concordances, bible charts/maps, geneology graphs, and the discussion is real-time. There are too many different flavors of Christians [as the author pointed out in the article wanting her child to die and not defend them from an attacker becuase “it’s God’s will”] that we have to very protective as a survivalist group. Not to mention there are Pastors today writing government reports [so to speak] and ties into the alphabet agencies which might give you pause.

2. I have and use these at my residence. They will stop the opportunist but not the Profesional crook. A die grinder will defeat them, but it will also defeat a gun vault/safe also. So do hide them.

3. When a friend in town here built his house, he had the concrete contractor fabricate two vaults, one for firearms and one for ammunition and magazines.
   He has two quality bank vault doors protecting them all.

   1. Tim in CT,

      Defeating those ‘bank vault’ locks is quick simple easy. Can you imagine your response as EVIL holds your spouse or child, a paring knife or screwdriver or machete inches from destroying fingers or eyes.

      Who believes EVIL plays by your fake rules? Civilized, with boundaries and time-outs tap-outs? EVIL uses your fake rules against you == and wins every time.

      * * * * *

      My four grandparents moved to north America from Ireland in the 1870s. They had gun safes for the stuff they could afford to lose. The good stuff was invisible.

      Granpa Jack told us kids:
      “Think like thieves… or the government agents. Now, what do you need to threaten or destroy to get your goods?”

4. An excellent idea! A couple of years ago I purchased a nice used job box at a garage sale for the paltry sum of $10 to use during a construction project at a remote location (our retreat). Lately I had been thinking that I should get rid of it as it was taking up storage space and I no longer needed it for the original intended purpose, but this letter provided an outstanding idea on how I can repurpose it. Like the author, I have been purchasing mags since the temporary ban, but storing them in ammo cans. Now I’ll be transferring those mags to that job box. With the heavy metal construction and a good quality lock, the job box will provide much better security from theft. In turn….empty ammo cans….what could I possibly fill them with?

5. Set up an obvious gun safe, master bedroom closet is most likely to be discovered. Bolt it so securely to the wall that it cannot be easily removed. This forces the thief to try to break into it. Set up an decent alarm system where it will be triggered by anyone trying to break into that safe, preferably a monitored alarm system where police will respond. The thief takes time to break into what he believes will be something profitable to him and the police have time to respond and catch him. Hide your actual fire arms and valuables in places far less likely to be discovered.

6. JWR,

   I would add a fifth suggestion following your own four:

   5) Divide your gun-related inventory among two or more locations, if possible. This is more than simply “caching” a few items here and there in hidden containers…you might even divide it up equally into two halves. Here in SoCal, we have undergone wildfires, flash floods, mudslides, and even earthquakes in addition to thefts. I myself have been blocked by deputies from accessing the road leading to my home due to natural disasters (twice by fires and once by heavy rains), which sometimes took days to clean up and re-open.

   I myself have all items evenly split between two addresses located several miles apart, in the event that one is entirely lost due to theft or wildfire.

   Just my two cents.

7. I second the split, disparate locations for valuable storage. Both sites should be put of even abnormal flood zones and tornado proof. For earthquake survivability I also keep a survival kit set on a 27 foot camper, with cheap .22 and 12 gauge there.

   At the very least, get an out of the way storage closet somewhere, such as an out of the way storage unit with 24/7 accessibility even when the power is off. You can fit a good lot of stuff into a 5 by 8 unit, including a gun safe.

8. @Commenters

   Be sure you have a safe in a common location which looters/thieves would be preoccupied. Inside should be your old broken .22 long rifle and other non-functioning and worthless firearms. The guns are what you give to the authorities when they arrive to collect guns.

   Use ever available space in your home. Such as a crawlspace, boarded up floor joists in your basement, false walls, and even board up supplies in your home walls. Remember modern day radar from the alphabet agencies can see through walls, so disperse them accordingly in ammo cans. Never behind a bookshelf or in those fake ceiling vents or outlets. Be sure the good stuff is hidden.

   In JWRs book, Liberators, there were Finnish made guns and precious metals stored behind one wall of a room which was 6 inches short than the adjacent room [if I recall my reading correctly].

   As far as storing your weapons at two seperate properties-Don’t! Store usable ones in your home and the others in tubes [as described on this website], and then off on a remote portion of property which you is state or federally owned–builders won’t be out on that property.

   As far as deputies stopping you from going to your home, that is against the Constitution. Next time ask to be deputized and you can stay where they stay. If they don’t deputize you on the spot, then call their watch-commander. If that doen’t work, fill in the blank, but do not let KALI-officers stop your tracks in life… that pull that garbage way too much on the public in TPROC.

9. Here in our area. A pickup truck backed up to a house. Winch cable attached to gun vault. Vault, wall studs and pieces of floor gone in less than sixty seconds. Opened Vault found in field later.

10. If you’re a welder or know one; weld up boxes out of 1/4” steel plate, line or cover them with drywall. If you scrounge you can sometimes find used steel at scrap or near to scrap prices.

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