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FINALLY! An accurate illustration of the Maji and Jesus. I get so sick of illustrations showing them with a new born Jesus. They came YEARS later.
Tex
“….we bow to no man…”
Yes, we bow to no Man. But this is where much of today’s culture fails. It fails to teach that God is not Man. That God is greater than Man.
From Agnostic to deeply religious, we all need to recognize that there is something outside of, and greater than us, and we need to be respectful of that presence. I think with that recognition, human interactions would be much better and humanity would rise.
I know, I know, I’m sounding cliche and trite. But I am not a theologian, to put my ideas into better words.
Thank you for this forum to allow me to present my humble offerings.
As a Christian for more than a half century, my views on gifts and giving have changed over time. I have no money for African charities given all of the talent and gifts just vanish in that black hole. People are too like bears, the native American Indian of the old west, and dogs. Feed one, and they just hang around and eat until all of your food is gone. Having so said, in a SHTF situation, I will still dispense some items of charity: water (as I have multiple sources), advice, and directions to somewhere else.
We bow to no man and we should not bow to a god that kills us with cancer, parkinson’s, other incurable diseases and natural disasters. Do you want pray to someone that continues to ignore you?
I followed his teachings and received nothing but more
challenges broken promises from fellow christians. Do you really want that person watching your back?
D-lew. What makes you think that it is God that causes cancer, parkinsons, other diseases, and disasters? God has given us freedom to live our lives and freedom to make decisions. But if people want to blame everything on God, they must be forgetting that there is a devil too causing all the $%#^ he can while he can.
My father-n-law became a preacher and traveled the midwest spreading the word. He told me repeatedly;”I believe in the lord and he will take care of me.” He had to move into my house when he retired, couldn’t afford to live anywhere else. I watched him die of parkinson’s. That’s how he was taken care of.
What you are describing is a more natural chaotic situation that is reality for all living things. We live we suffer we have joy and sorrow, we die. There is no deity and no devil controlling it.
I agree. No deity or devil, just us living day by day.
Wow D-lew, hurt much. Sorry to see such a statement. I’m guessing you have never really understood or accepted the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Sorry to feel your hurt as he screams from your words.
I do want Father, Son and Holy Ghost to watch my back. Who wouldn’t want the creator of all things, omniscient, omnipresent, who saw the end from the begininning and called it exactly as it would be, to be in charge of their life?
Bible Prophecy is exploding from the pages right now. Get into that study and please reconsider your stance. It’s the most important thing you will ever do, or not do. God bless, or good luck, depending on your choice.
I am trying to understand how this relates to a post-teotwawki world where people will ultimately kill for a can of beans or offer sex for a bowl of soup.
Reflections on Christian prepping are great when things are relatively calm…but when the wolf is at the door…people change.
It is important because we are not excused from Christian charity when TEOTWAWKI arrives. When things are good and life is plentiful, inappropriate Christian charity doesn’t have much impact on our lives. When things get bad though and you have little to share, how do you make the hard decisions to know what you can give without impacting your obligations to family and congregation?
Does that stranger that shows up at your door take a higher priority than your neighbor who has a need and is a fellow congregant? What about the single mother with two children that lives on the other side of you?
Understanding what your obligations are now will make those decisions much easier when things are not so easy.
“we are not excused from Christian charity”
Even if it is counter productive or contrary to good sense?
Imagine a lifeboat with 20 people in it that can hold 30 people. There are hundreds of survivors in the water. If you row over in an attempt to pick up 10 more survivors all of them will of course try to get in the boat and it will capsize and no one will survive the cold water. If your boat captain is a fool and orders you to row over anyway I suggest you reduce the population of your little lifeboat to 19 people. It does not matter his reason, his belief, his love and empathy. His stupidity would kill you all…
Since when does the end justify the means? That is definitely not a biblical concept.
I would say that the end justifies the means in almost all cases and is only a problem at the extremes. I got a bachelors and masters degree while working full time, took a lot of work, but the end justified the means.
If you were a member of a group; a church, a survivalist group or perhaps a work crew, would you follow a leader who was crazy and/or embarked on a course that would end very badly? Think about those people who followed Jim Jones and were mentally and perhaps physically unable to not drink the Kool-aid. I am absolutely a proponent in rebelling against stupidity and foolishness.
IdahoBob,
Is an immoral or unethical means justified by a good outcome? Can you cite any Biblical basis for your answer?
Whether you believe in truth or not is irrelevant. Truth exists independent of your desire to believe it or not.
“Is an immoral or unethical means justified by a good outcome?”
YES! I wish someone had killed Hitler in the 30’s I wish some NK general would kill Kim Jong-un.
“Can you cite any Biblical basis for your answer?”
It just depends on interpretation. Did you know that the bible you read and believe in is not the bible as written. It was interpreted and edited and made palatable to the time all of this happened. Who knows what the bible says? Neither you nor me.
“Whether you believe in truth or not is irrelevant.”
I absolutely believe in truth!!!
“Truth exists independent of your desire to believe it or not.”
Yes a lesson to all of us including yourself. What is true? almost everything we believe today was not believe a few short centuries ago. It is likely that much of what we believe will one day be “proven” to be wrong. And it’s likely that if you wait awhile longer someone will prove it all right again.
IdahoBob,
If you think that everyting in Scripture is up for grabs depending on your own interpretation, then you absolutely do not believe in absolute truth. What you are describing is “situational ethics” (which was pushed heavily in America’s public schools in the ’70s and is making an appearance again).
Even in our own walk with the Lord, the destination is not the important goal. The journey is what is important. You can’t push, shove, and walk over people to get to the front of the line in heaven when the whole point is to teach you kindness and compassion such as our Lord had.
Yes, there is a time for violence and I won’t dispute your point about Hitler, but it is a straw-man argument.
The end never justifies the means. You cannot lie your way into Kingdom of Heaven. You cannot murder your way to the throne of God.
By the way, I have studied and continue to study the Bible in the original languages. There are definitely translational problems that arise due to the translators personal biases or lack of cultural understanding (especialy around the use of idioms and figurative language.) But nowhere in the Bible will you find Scripture where the end justifies the means. In fact, you will find that “honor” and “integrity” are of utmost importance – especially when you understand the cultural idioms and figurative language used.