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  1. Amen. I’ll point out that a mid-fifty year old can sling a 30# propane tank as easily as a 20#. Stating the obvious, 50% more fuel.

    You remind me that I need to redouble my effort on water storage and handling.

  4. Most police officers will probably stay at home and put family first, not fellow officers. Look what happened during New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina. Not a lot of police were in the streets. At the end of the day, most police will put their families first to make sure they are safe.

    2. ….the tipping point in New Orleans was gunfire in the streets…when the gunfire broke out many police officers headed home to protect their own loved ones…I made a mental note of that as I believe it could universally apply in any urban SHTF scenario….gunfire in the streets means we up our home defense game.

  5. Finding that your network of family and friends are the weak link – when you are the person that always seems to have the right tools, parts or can fix something, and you’ve got a plan, you wonder if they will have the right stuff – your not alone.

    Definitely need to be able to muster a group of 20-50 like minded neighbors or a community in the worst case scenario. Get in shape by walking the neighborhood, you’ll meet folks, get to see who’s usually home, retired, or otherwise – be seen and known, you may need to become the pack leader because you can’t stand alone.

    Agree – got me thinking about how good is my sanitation plan.
    How sustainable is your plan to clean pots and pans, plates and eating utensils – you’ll run out of paper plates at some time. Get some knowledge (and resources) for treating some of the common GI ailments – these conditions can be depilitating and spread quickly if not addressed quickly – rotavirus is bad and will be common, but survivable with rehydration (get bulk powdered Gatorade) and know when to use anti diarrhea medications that are readily available over the counter. Understanding transmission of food and water borne disease may be as important as good water filtration and sanitation practices – some are common sense while others are not so.

  6. Never ever run out of Colloidal silver, dish washing liquid soap, and garbage bags. The dopers and gangbangers will self destruct within the first few weeks due to overconsumption of freely available “stuff”, the drunks will do the same, and the sick and slow and stupid soon after. If you can last out about a month many of the threats will be neutralized by mother nature.

  7. “Roving Lawless Men”
    You need to develop an attitude of “MY life first”. Too many people purchase a gun, and don’t develop the necessary attitude to be able to pull the trigger and take a life in self-defense in order to protect and save their own life (and by extension, save the lives of family, friends, and neighbors).
    Harden your hearts and minds against those that would take yours. Even if that outlaw is wearing a uniform. ESPECIALLY if that “Roving Lawless” person is wearing a uniform.

  8. Good straight forward no BS article. Even for those of us living in a “town” of 200. For the most part my neighbors seem to be of a survivalist mind set, but the folks 2 doors down scare me.

    I would like to add that having a couple of the 300 gallon water tubs hooked to the gutters is a good idea if you can swing it.

  9. GREAT, great article. I was advised by two members of the EMP Commission and an engineer at my city water works that the cities will die. Water will be the weakest link for anyone staying there. We go for several months without a drop of rain in Utah. Relying on rain catchment may not work out. Sanitation, as highlighted, will be the next biggest hurdle, assuming one has all the other items on the list. Flies crawl all over your neighbor’s waste and then fly over the fence to YOUR house. Teach your neighbors good hygiene, too, or you’ll go down with them.
    And then, there is the fact that cities are packed with millions of gun owners without food or water. Don’t be there.
    Boiling water for drinking and hygiene takes a LOT of fuel. Doesn’t get rid of harmful chemicals likely to be found in city ditches. Oil and fuel dripping on roads washes into these ditches and streams not to mention industrial polluters.
    Plan for years, not weeks.

  14. Great article. Well thought out and well written. Even kids could understand it. In the end it will be about mindset and training and it is obvious L.H. has gone thru the training and developed the mindset. One of the best articles of this type I have seen in a while. Please keep it up.

  16. may I suggest a long handle ( 48″) drain spade for your latrine pit digging or tree transplanting or post hole digging needs I prefer the fiberglass handle model around here we call them hole shooters.

  17. I have never seen the level of hate and despicable acts like we are seeing nowadays. My son is a new police officer. The vile crap directed at these men and women is overwhelming. We are truly seeing battles of good against evil. Sooner or later its gonna be in YOUR face. Decide now. God help us…

  18. Good reminder of how quickly things can get worse… With your location in a northern, very cold and snowy winter climate, you would have to do some water and sanitation preps during warmer months. Digging an outhouse hole by hand in frozen ground would be very difficult, but possible in the warmer months,,, just put a small rubbermaid storage shed over the hole until you need it. Bury a 350 gal liquid storage tote (get it used from the coke plant for $60) in the ground during the summer time, insulate it with sufficient styrofoam and straw and put an access pipe near the surface. Keep empty sandbags on hand; they are good for many purposes.
    Prep on!

  19. Kitty litter, particularly the non-clay varieties, will do wonders for indoor sanitation. After all, that’s what is was designed for.

    A dry potty of whatever description, lines with a plastic bag, with a scoop of kitty litter on the bottom, and an open bag of litter next to it. Poop. Scoop. Done. No stink, no flies, no mess.

    In winter, take the full bag outside and let it freeze. In warm weather, dig a hole/trench, empty the bags into it, and plant trees on top.

    This works even better if you have a separate pee potty next to the poo potty, as the pee will use up much more of the litter than the poop. Urine can just be poured out outdoors, away from the house. It’s the poop that’s the dangerous-to-your-heath stuff.

  21. Good article, but let me add two things. One: a luggable loo portable toilet is a good deal at $20. With CONTRACTORS BAGS-not garbage bags-and lots of kitty litter, life will be okay. Two: sincerely think about a composting toilet. You can buy one for about $980, and coco coir is cheap and easily stored. These things will make your life easier, cleaner, and safer. You can stick a composting toilet in any empty room for the new privacy. Please remember to deep stack toilet paper as it is cheap now and a clean simple alternative to life’s calling. Also-buy those rubber gloves by the gross. Life is messy and they are very worth the investment.

  22. most people in the modern world wont be able to function without the services they rely on for everyday life.
    they will be dead within a month without supermarkets, sewers, running water and the internet.
    dead bodies are going to be your worst problem.

  24. If you live in a city of a million, chances are very slim that you will survive. Your best option is to relocate away from the city as best you can.

    We moved from Chicago to a small community 75 miles away…and I drove to the city for work every day for two years. It sucked, but I was content in the knowledge that my family was pretty safe in a small village away from the madness.

    Planning to gut it out in the city is foolhardy in my opinion.

  25. there was a survey done in the US a few years ago, some of the replies were as follows:
    55% of people said they have less than 3 DAYS worth of food in the house.
    21% said they would survive for less than 1 WEEK.
    28% said they would survive for less than 2 WEEKS.
    75% said they would be DEAD within 2 MONTHS.

    1. I wouldn’t call myself a full on prepper, but… Have wood stove to keep warm and cook and boil water. Have a sump pump and hole is always full of water and have multiple filter sytems. Plenty of guns and ammo. About a month of food, maybe close to two. So I am confident I could last at least a couple of months in the northeast no matter what time of year. I definitely need to do more though.

  26. I searched for GI diseases. This seems to be very helpful, if you can wade through the medical parlance. Note esp. the first part and chart regarding heat to make food safe. With no refrigeration, like our ancestors, heating will save your bacon (joke here). I have reheated a pot of food many times and eaten safely and nutritiously.

    The link: https://courses.lumenlearning.com/microbiology/chapter/bacterial-infections-of-the-gastrointestinal-tract/

    As on comment noted, using fire to make food or water safe is problematic. Consider solar: http://sunshineonmyshoulder.com/5-benefits-of-solar-cooking/

    Note esp. the entries under health and cooking. Safe food and safe water prevents most GI infectious diseases.

  27. Great article, mixing dead lifts with squats can greatly increase testosterone the next day so follow those days up with an upper body part your lacking strenght in.

    While i have alot of advice for people with land and animals i know very little about city living. Thank you for the insight, i lived outside of Baltimore for a few years and never liked that city, the blue lights at night on the inner harbor which basically said its not safe here your on your own. Agressive beggers and fake Veterans were rampant.

    Theres also alot of parables on storing choice foods and avoiding danger . Not going to list them though, open your Bible and read. 🙂

  29. Look to medieval times. Monolithic buildings with out central air or heat. Just big fireplaces. Look to Colonial America. No central heat just fireplaces and rooms with low ceilings and small dimensions to conserve heat.

  30. get a water-bob for the tub 200 gal’s of clean water. this will keep the water safe and clean to drink. also it will not leak down the drain.

    as for leaning to shoot do not buy a cheep 22 rifle. I would also by a high quality spring-air rifle and quality pellets. this is a very good learning tool and is quiet when you shoot. I have killed a lot of squirrels with mine. and no this is not your Daisy BB gun.

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