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1. The counterfeit Canadian gold bar found recently highlights why it’s best (IMNSHO) to focus on gold US Eagles (1/10, 1/4. 1/2. & 1 oz). You also need to have a way to test coins — Fisch tester, acid test, et cetera if you’re going to take them in exchange. The same holds for silver coins. I would stay away from all packaged [bullion] bars and coins, if you can.

2. I understand the logic of desiring an offshore retreat, but I truly think if things are so bad here, I can’t imagine they’d be any better elsewhere in the world. I also know from experience that in other countries, immigrants are generally treated like garbage, regardless of their economic status. You cannot buy your way into acceptance. Your best bet remains purchasing a rural retreat inside CONUS no, before SHTF, and begin accliminating yourself to the community and acclimating the community to yourself. Just my .02

   1. I could not agree more. Unless you have family in a foreign country forget about it. I remember being in the Caribbean a few years back. A restaurant owner who had lived on the island for many years told us (because we asked what it was like to relocate and live there) that more than one local told her, “you may live here, but you will never be from here”. That’s what they say when times are good. It doesn’t matter if many people would treat you fairly, there will those that will not. I’ll take my chance here, where I know the lay of the land and access to like minded folks. Like minded folks would be few if any in other countries.

3. I’ll take my chances in the USA. Having lived in several third world countries, I can tell you that you will definitely be an outsider (though you might think you aren’t). If the USA breaks down, I’d be willing to bet that you will be target #1 in a foreign country. The locals and the local police will have nothing to fear. They will come take your stuff, land, etc and there will be nothing you can do about it. The US Embassy will no longer protect you.

4. Bugging out to a retreat within the US will be hard enough, but to another country? It depends on the type of crisis, I suppose, but in all the different scenarios I can think of, it would be near impossible.

   1. I believe the concept is aimed at the super wealthy, with access to things like private jets and private airstrips (I imagine). That being said, Im afraid (in my math), the cost benefit analysis is poor. As was pointed out by SE USA, I personally believe virtually anywhere you go, you are a target for a native with no strong love of Americans, esp ones who buy up there rural property. Neither Local law enforcement or the Embassy will help you when the mob shows up at your door. Poor decision, in my opinion.

      1. Having grown up in a predominantly white European country, I can also say that Americans get marked immediately as such.

5. Addendumnto prior reply. Americans are generated tolerated abroad because the consequences of not doing so are dire. Not bc they like us (they don’t). When the threat of those consequences are removed, the compulsion to “suffer our presence” is removed with it.

6. Concerning “Crisis in California;” I’ve been hearing it for years; “Nuke’em!” “Let ’em fall into the sea with the next earthquake!” The comments below the video go on and on. Never mind the fact that cutting off California would rob the United States of some of the most productive farmland in the world, oil and mineral resources, and three deep-water ports. Doing so would effectively enlarge the western border of the United States, with that border being adjacent to a financially feeble 3rd World country. What would keep “The Peoples’ Republic of Kalifornia” from “making a deal” with someone like China; You give us aid, and we’ll let you put military bases on our soil? There are MILLIONS of patriotic Americans who, for whatever reason, need to remain in California. It would be refreshing to get a little encouragement and support from our fellow patriots instead of being summarily written off.

   1. Hey not the whole of California. Just far west California. The state if Jefferson (northern cali) could stay. East California, (the central valley and east to the border could stay), even far southern California could stay. Just loose north of Orange County to just north of Sacramento and what is basically west of the central valley needs to go, let them secede, PLEASE!!! Don’t make everyone pay for the lunacy of the folks from San Fran to La La land.

7. Ref Belize: While visiting there, I noticed that every house our bus passed, had what appeared to be rebar lattices standing out away from every window, and (most) over the door. In my days as a Detroit medic, we called such structures “ghetto gates”. When I asked the tour guide about them, I was told that they were for hurricane shutters. Interesting. I had thought that “hurricane shutters”, with a standoff from the structure of nearly a foot, would be somewhat less than effective. Unless, of course, the tour guide was trying to avoid spooking the cruise ship touristas. My appraisal is that these were to slow home invaders. My guess, from a tourist drive-by.

8. Re: Centro America and Dominican Republic
   The cement walls topped with concertina wire or with broken glass embedded in the cement on top. Locks on gates and fast food restaurants with armed guards. Tells one a lot about the society.

9. Lived in Caribbean for a year, traveled around — Barbados, Dominica, St Kitts, St Vincent, St Lucia, Jamaica, Guyana — beautiful areas, lovely people, but in WROL situation people will show up and take whatever you have, maybe peacefully, maybe not. Everyone will be friendly until The Day. Better to be in US, in place with like-minded people who you know and who know you. Read Kurt Schlichter’s novels, the country might break up into factional areas and you might have to move — but you’d still be better off here.

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