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  1. I’m not sure where you are getting your information that the 1st and 2nd apply to territories. That’s not true at all. Perhaps in some theory but it has never been true in practice.
    We really don’t have it here in it’s entirety and barely have it here with strict limitations and only in some places.

  2. @Matt in Oklahoma

    1) You are wrong with regard to the US Virgin Islands. The Revised Organic Act of 1954 –which serves as Congress’s constitution for the Virgin Islands — explicitly states in section 3 (Bill of Rights):
    “The following provisions of and amendments to the Constitution of the United States are hereby extended to the Virgin Islands to the extent that they have not been previously extended to that territory and shall have the same force and effect there as in the United States or in any State of the United States: article I, section 9….THE FIRST TO NINTH AMENDMENTS INCLUSIVE; the thirteenth amendment; the second sentence of section 1 of the fourteenth amendment…”

    Ref: https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/migrated/oia/about/upload/RevOrganicAct_1954.pdf ; page 88

    2) Re the legal ban on confiscation of firearms see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_government_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina#Confiscation_of_civilian_firearms

    3) Governor Mapp’s actions also explicitly violates the Fifth Amendment’s ban on government taking private property for public use without compensation.

    1. I said in practice. You can show me paper all day but go to any of the territories and try and practice your 2nd and see what happens.
      Then exercise your 1st and see how far that gets you.

  5. Puerto Rico. I don’t know the solution here. You build cities on an island in hurricane alley then are surprised it all gets wiped out every couple years? Then the tax payers pony up so you can rebuild in time for the next one. The same can be said in several other areas in the Gulf. I don’t know what the answer is but what we’re doing isn’t working.

  6. I wonder just how easily the Virgin Islands folks gave up their firearms? While there must be those ready for this (with concealment taken care of) I’d guess most just rolled over.

  7. I’m sorry if my tinfoil hat is showing, but I suspect that the VI trick is a convenient (sp) test run for localized firearm seizures on the mainland. We’re taking your guns. Because, you know, emergency. it could become quite an easy remedy to disarm gun owners incrementally, geographically, by created “emergencies”. “Oh, we’re just collecting firearms for safe keeping in Florida until this hurricane passes.” Meanwhile, everyone else in the country wouldn’t support those disarmed, saying there being unreasonable.

    But I ask you, when was the last time government took something, and ever gave it back?

    2. I think one question to answer is whether they have registration or not.
      If they do, the govt won’t have any trouble.
      If they don’t, who’s to know if you have firearms. And who would admit it if they did?

  10. this c@#p was pulled during the katrina crisis as well. As i recall several lawsuits ofter the fact settled the matter to a large settlement at taxpayer expense.

  11. IIRC, post Katrina there was a law past specifically to prevent the repeat of civil authorities disarming citizens during a disaster. Don’t remember the details.

  12. On Guam, they shut off the diesel generators at about 50 mph winds, the employees go home to be with their families. Most of the wires are underground, they fly a helicopter over the exposed power lines after the winds have died down. If all is well they fire up the generators and life is back to normal. I could also sit in my living room during a super typhoon and talk to my parents on the phone in Florida, like they were in the next room. It works well, for them, but we insist on building our homes with twigs.

  13. I am a staunch supporter of the constitution and the confiscation of guns angers me. Isn’t the solution to remove the emergency power which is unconstitutional? If given the opportunity, the progressives will continue to create and/or take advantage of emergencies. I have been heavily criticized for advocating self sufficiency and refusing government help. It’s the only way I see to preserve our liberty.

  14. History continues to repeat itself, mostly caused by the Left who don’t like things like facts and history:

    After Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin instituted a similar order and began confiscating legally owned and possessed firearms. The NRA intervened in federal court and was able to halt the confiscations and obtain an order requiring the return of the seized firearms. The organization then backed federal legislation to prohibit the confiscation of legal firearms from law-abiding citizens during states of emergency. In 2006, President George W. Bush signed this legislation into law.

    “When 911 is non-existent and law enforcement personnel are overwhelmed with search-and-rescue missions and other emergency duties, law-abiding American citizens must be able to protect their families and loved ones. The NRA is prepared to pursue legal action to halt Gov. Mapp’s dangerous and unconstitutional order,” concluded Cox.

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/20170905/nra-condemns-us-virgin-island-firearm-confiscation-plan

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  17. “Violation of the U.S. Constitution” … be interesting to see someone try this in Alaska … I was discussing this with some of my fellow officers … and the consensus was bring it on … we’ll set to the side and watch the fun …

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