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1. I thoroughly enjoyed learning from this article. (I wish you could have heard my audible when I read about the $200 tax. Unbelievable! It is robbery!) Anyway, I really appreciated that you shared your wife’s perspective. I loved it.

   1. the $200 tax is not even the worse part of a suppressor. you will need to submit finger prints too. (that is why i do not own one)

      1. The [Federal NFA] tax Is the worst form of revenue naziism.

      2. You’re telling me that you never thought it was important in the military, too.

      3. even worse is waiting a year for a manual reply from uncle sam when they digitally run your finger prints and back ground check.

2. Hi Pat,

   For clarification your Glock 45 has an extended threaded barrel. I own a Glock 45 that came with a standard length barrel and no threading. While both are a Glock model 45, they apparently have at least two versions. Also of note, the Glock 19X was submitted for the military sidearm solicitation that was ultimately won by the Sig P320. The Glock 19X is almost the same pistol as a Glock 45 without the extended threaded barrel and comes in a desert tan color. Thanks for your articles.

3. Every gun review lately ends the same way :”if you can find one….”

4. For many years I shunned Glocks because I preferred a hammer. There’s something about the clicks they make that is a soothing effect. I eventually bought a gen 4 model 19 as a just in case things get crazy I could easily sell it but then I decided to dust it off and shoot it. I agree with Pat, out of the box Glocks run. That’s a bit weird in my mind but it’s why my EDC pistol is a Glock 26. I also have a registered suppressor and it is a personal choice but for me it’s worth the hassle to have one if you are debating about it. The lower recoil and noise really help make shooting more pleasant, particularly for my wife who avoids public ranges because of some bad experiences with people next to us and excessive muzzle blast.

5. I jumped though the hoops and did the whole nine yards thing and it took about 12 months to get .30 cal suppressor ( wish I had this 40 plus yrs ago before I lost a good part of my hearing ), now I’m hearing that the wait is down to 5 to 7 months ( maybe, if Biden and whatshername doesn’t screw things up ). I took it out the other day to check my rifle for accuracy and yes there is lot of difference with it on and without it on ( like I said before, wish I had this yrs ago ). And the hearing protection act, I don’t look for anything to happen with that, not with Biden and whatshername taking over ( hopefully not, but )

6. If you want a lot more detail on the evolution of US anti-gun law in the form of a riveting novel, then I recommend you find a copy of a book by John Ross titled Unintended Consequences published in 1996.

7. Regarding suppressors: I purchased a Sig SRD 556 for my AR. It took 14 months and 2 days to receive permission from the ATF to take it home. With the suppressor basic cost, the transfer tax and an NFA trust it was over $1000 total. Here is the “good ” part: unsuppressed the decibel reading is 142. Suppressed the decibel reading is 136. This is with standard velocity ammo , not subsonic. Must wear hearing protection even suppressed. In addition, the carbon fouling of the bolt/chamber/gas tube is greatly increased. To me it’s just not worth the “investment”.

8. Hope Glock is listening about a single-stack .45.

   1. Try the Glock 36…

9. I don’t know if “unintended consequences” is back in print now but it used to be you needed to download a copy. I think the late great Mike Vanderboegh had a link to the download. But he’s gone some years now. “Say his name”

   At any rate, a riveting riotous account of gun control with appropriate rewards for the controllers. A story, that needs to be widely read with attitudes that need to be adopted widely.

   1. We could use Henry Bowman about now!

10. thanks for sharing very informative

11. Thanks Pat! As always, I appreciate learning from your reviews. Glocks are effective, durable, and affordable weapons, with great lead capacity, and several of my buddies carry them.

    I wanted to offer an opinion emphasizing capacity, not relating to this reviewed pistol, but to any pistol. I’m not directing this to anyone in particular, or about any firearm in particular. All firearms have tradeoffs; whether it is size, weight, caliber, recoil, concealability, etc. I personally like different features in all of my weapons, and have different ones for different purposes. They are tools after all. I personally like steel or alloy framed over polymer, hammer over striker, but those are all MY personal preferences. I shoot what is comfortable and works well for me, and everyone else should carry/own/shoot what works well for them. This IS still America after all! (at least for now)

    This comment as I said is more about capacity. In my mind, a pistol is a defensive weapon. I view it as a tool to help me get out of a bad situation, and if it is really bad, to get me back to a long gun, or a true fighting weapon.

    Years ago, my DW (SWMBO) pointed out a recount of a defensive shooting in my monthly NRA Rifleman magazine. In that recount, a woman (and it could just as easily have been a man) was at home with two small children, and her husband had just left for work. Two men who were watching the house forced entry into the home, and the Mom retreated to an upstairs bedroom with the two toddlers and closed herself in a closet with her 38 special (5 shot) revolver. The men entered the bedroom, and one opened the closet door. She fired all 5 shots hitting the first assailant twice in the chest and the other man once (forget where, I think an extremity). Both men fled the house; one died on the lawn, the other was arrested at a hospital (if my memory is accurate) nearby.

    My wife’s point was this: what if she had missed more than the two shots, or there was a third man, or a fourth? She was out of rounds after 5. It was then that DW insisted we get her a standard capacity 15/17 round 9mm pistol, which we did. After trying out 10 different semi’s, the S&W 5 shot wheel gun is now affectionately referred to as the cookie jar/dictionary gun and she shoots a P226 like a champion!

    My point is this: concealability and comfort are important, but effectiveness ‘under stress’ is also important. There are LOTS of great guns at all price points. I even saw one pistol, a Ruger Security 9, was available for $299-$329 (before the riots started) with a 15-17rd capacity (I don’t work for them or have any financial interest in Ruger). Obviously get something that is in your price range, that you shoot well, and is comfortable, but keep in mind that when you are adrenaline rushed in a ‘real life and death situation’, it will be better to have more rounds to place on target than a 5 or 6 or even 7/8 shot can give you.

    Just something to think about.

    As always, hoping we all…
    Seymour Liberty

12. NFA of 1934. $200 tax stamp nearly (or was) a year’s pay for many folks in 1934. Army private’s pay in 1940 = $17 per month. The FDR Democrats effectively banned those items covered by NFA. Neatly sidestepped the unconstitutional banning. Hey, it’s just a TAX. Taxation is a government right! Nothing to see here, move along.

    No one knows how the surpressor ban found its way into the bill.

    Let’s Roll
    Wolf

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