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1. I bought one of the original PC9 carbines, along with a boatload of the Hirtenberger Submachinegun +P+ 9mm ammo that was available in bulk at that same time. Together, they make a potent setup. Hirtenberger 124grain 9mm, 1506 average, 186 power factor.

2. Pat, have you tried the little kel-tec yet? very light, small, folds up and very accurate. No need for any optic, comes with sights

   1. Which model… isn’t the 2000 in 9mm discontinued ???

      1. No. It is still available. Great little gun and very accurate. I hv run about 200 rds through it and no hiccups. Glock mags match sidearm.

3. Checked this morning, SGammo is out of 9mm. If their price holds once new stock arrives, the price for FMJ is around .35 cents, and hollow points seem to run around .80 cents. Also checked the price of 7.62×39. It has increased to up to around .31 cents for either FMJ or soft points. They still have cases of .308 that starts at .84 cents. PSA still has a few complete rifles for sale, namely, 2 variations of the Springfield M1A for $1400, and bit less for the SOCOM-16. Given the current situation or not, I’d love to have an M1A. Of course with a bit of work, one could find something else.
   https://palmettostatearmory.com/springfield-armory-308-m1a-socom-rifle-multicam-black-aa9618.html

   1. Yes, was finally able to score 2 boxes of 20 9mm hollow point locally and paid .80 each! Crazy. Will just stash those away and hope I never need them! Motivation to become a better shot; don’t want to waste more than one bullet on anyone deserving of being shot! 😉

      1. Do drills without firing. If you need it, most of it will be up close, inside of 7 yards, so accuracy is not as critical, but the deployment of the weapon is the most important. Go slow and smooth. You’ll have plenty of speed when you need it, if the motion/drill becomes muscle memory, because slow is smooth and smooth is fast. There was a study years ago that found that new shooters tend to pay more attention and took their time deploying their handgun were better shots than those who were very experienced, learn bad habits and missed the target more often than new shooters.
         Moral of the story: Don’t learn bad habits.

4. Hope you check out the new PC Charger. Combined with an arm brace, seems like it would be a fine PDW. (Maybe a little heavy?)

5. How to Check a Revolver Before Buying or Firing

   https://youtu.be/l5elCqNcXqg

   Tunnel Rabbit’s comment:

   Good check list. I would also do a rapid dry fire to see that it functions smoothly. Always assume that no one sells a good horse.

   Given the ammo drought in the U.S.. revolvers in the less popular cartridges are now more justified, as the price popular of 9mm self defense rounds are .80 cent/round, and much higher, IF you can find it for sale. Same can be said of the other popular cartridges. However, the once higher priced 44 magnum, and it’s lower recoil cousin cartridge, .44 Special, that can be shot from the same .44 mag revolver, are now both priced near, or less than the current high price of popular cartridges, 9mm,.38, .45acp, . 40 cal etc. And this ammunition is still available in good quantity at SGammo.com.https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammo-sale/44-special-ammo. Also look at .41 magnum, and other alternatives. 5 or 6 rounds well placed shots out of a ‘wheel gun’ (revolver) in these less powerful popular cartridges would usually be adequate, but 5 rounds of .44 mag, or .44 special would be much better.

   There is simply no substitute for heavy slugs. Yes, the revolver would be heavier, but it would also be a heavy hitter. 9mm is weak in comparison, and you’ll have fewer rounds to get it done. When the popular cartridges are all gone, you’ll still be able to find ammo as well. It is an alternative that, at the very least, is better than nothing at all.

6. As far as I know their still producing th Kel-tec Sub 2000 in 9mm.

7. I have a Ruger PC9 and this is my travel rifle. Matter of fact I am out of town now and have it with me along with 4 of the Ruger mags. Mine was accurate right out of the box and I am please with it and my wife also likes shooting it. The rifle along with my EDC 9mm makes a good combination. Ruger did a great job with this model.

8. I remember in the late 60’s ruger made a 44 magnum carbine w/a wood stock
   I got one and loved it wish I still had it

9. I have a PC9, but ‘someone’ might want to try one of these. I have been informed that they work really well with a generic AR15 lower and 9mm uppers. When you can’t find any 9mm you pull this out and use your lower for something else.

   https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/caliber-conversion-kits/ar-15-9mm-conversion-adapter-for-glock-magazines-sku100027483-117289-217788.aspx

   1. I own two of the Stern Defense mag well adapters — one for Glock and one for SIG P320. They work very well. HOWEVER, I do not recommend them for anything but training guns. You see, they have a re-located magazine release button at the bottom of the mag well. In the stress of a combat situation, someone might find themselves punching at the original magazine release button — and those are deactivated. You’d have to fight your muscle memory to use one, and that is difficult, when under high stress.

10. Glad you gave some light on the .30 carbine. It really isn’t a bad rifle for the urbans and is compact to carry in tight spaces. Not very loud and ammunition not very heavy (though a little pricey when can be found).

    1. Although not a box fed magazine rifle such as the M1 Carbine, an SKS is similar in some respects. If one has a handgun as a back up, instead of reloading the SKS after it’s 10 round magazine is spent, transition to the hand gun. I would use soft point ammunition that currently around .30 cent around. If looking for an SKS, keep an eye out for the Chinese made Norinco SKS with the more maneuverable 16 inch barrel.

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