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  1. TJ in Georgia! Really enjoyed your article, and lifting up prayers for you. You were wise to work in earnest on so many preparations — and to alert others (even if they were not prepared to hear you!

  2. Does a cloth face mask really “protect” you? A study of that style mask determined that it can filter out 8% of droplets and contaminates in the air that could contain a virus or germs. But allows 92% to be inhaled.

    A separate article I read stated that cloth masks are actually a greater risk to catching a disease because it creates a perfect environment of germs and viruses because of the warm moist air breathed through it.

        1. Do you know and could prove it that you don´t ´ve the Virus, that you weren´t infected in this Moment!

          Handle every gun at it is loaded: same principle

          1. Exactly! Since you can never prove that you shouldn’t have your constitutional rights taken from you we must therefore take your constitutional rights away.

            I think the governor should also require that we wear dunce caps and walk like an Egyptian.

            I can’t help but think that even those politicians who mean well are simply requiring us to wear masks so that they will appear to be serious about protecting lives. When does it end? Even if the Covid threat ends there is the next flu season and who knows what else. Maybe we should require masks 100% of the time with big fines for those who do not comply.

          2. You´ve constitutional Right to endanger other People by handling your gun unsafe?

            Your words give the Impression you only look for an excuse to act as unethical like you want, not caring if you endanger others peoples life and Health with your actions.

            Wearing a mask the Right way absolutly protects lifes, not your own, but those of others from you if you´re infected.

          3. “Your words give the Impression you only look for an excuse to act as unethical like you want, ”
            No, we know exactly who you are and why I oppose your plan.

            Honestly if I thought that wearing a mask would prevent me from getting sick I would wear it. If I thought wearing gloves would protect me I would wear them. If I thought that constant applications of hand sanitizer would protect me I would do it. They don’t. What it boils down to is “they might” or “they may be somewhat effective” which then somehow morphs into “you must wear the mask or go to jail”, or you must stay in your house or go to jail. And finally it becomes “Here is the number to call if you see your neighbors go out doors or not wearing a mask.

            The mask does not protect you. It may somewhat limit the number of virus that you inhale but you will still get sick. The mask for most people is a comfort thing to make them feel like they are doing something. It doesn’t work.

            Think of it like a water filter that filters out 50% of the water down to 0.1 micron but allows the rest to pass thru unfiltered. The filter is 50% effective. It “may” help prevent water borne disease…

          5. A recently published study:
            Study: Cloth Masks
            Objective
            The aim of this study was to compare the efficacy of cloth masks to medical masks in hospital healthcare workers (HCWs). The null hypothesis is that there is no difference between medical masks and cloth masks.
            Setting
            14 secondary-level/tertiary-level hospitals in Hanoi, Vietnam.
            Participants
            1607 hospital HCWs aged ≥18 years working full-time in selected high-risk wards.
            Intervention
            Hospital wards were randomized to: medical masks, cloth masks or a control group (usual practice, which included mask wearing). Participants used the mask on every shift for 4 consecutive weeks.
            Main outcome measure
            Clinical respiratory illness (CRI), influenza-like illness (ILI) and laboratory-confirmed respiratory virus infection.

            Results
            The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07) compared with the medical mask arm. Cloth masks also had significantly higher rates of ILI compared with the control arm. An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.
            Conclusions
            This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.

    3. If you do your research, the masks can be 95% effective. That is what I made for myself and family (use with filters). I’ve shared the info with those I know are making cloth masks for others, but they or their recepients are not interested. Research is easily available online and, if you sew, the skill level is low. As an at-risk person, I’d love to see everyone wear masks, but realize that’s not going up happen in my neck of the woods. I avoid most places and wear my mask that filters at a 95% level and wear gloves. Wearing gloves correctly is highly effective, but that would be correctly. There are many things that can be done as well to mitigate becoming infected with any number of contagions if need be. We have been doing them for 11 months and I, the vulnerable person, have not been contaminated and made ill with a secondary infection. Lots of work and dedication though, so I don’t recommend following these procedures unless you really need them. That said…This virus won’t be going anywhere soon and forcing everyone to stay inside isn’t a viable solution, so we need to get on with living. Do what you need to do to keep well as every situation differs. Burning down churches for meeting isn’t the answer. Panicky people are dangerous and wearing an ineffective mask might just be the protection you will need to keep safe for that threat.

  3. As I understand it, the cloth face mask will minimize the airborne droplets exhaled from someone who is sick. Since you can be asymptomatic, this will help prevent the spread of the virus, or at least that is the logic behind it.

    As for protecting yourself from the virus, it does not really help. When I went into my local Safeway (and they require you to wear a mask) I told the person enforcing the mask requirement that the cloth mask she was wearing isn’t really protecting her. She replied, “I know”.

    1. Actually, the CDC invalidated a study that claimed you could infect others while being asymptomatic. There is strong evidence out now that if you are asymptomatic, you are not contagious.

  4. I was in the Boy Scouts for a few years. I got discouraged and quit because I was not advancing in rank. It would take forever to get to the next badge. Our scout master focused more on doing things but was hardly counted for advancement. A few years after quiting Scouts, I realized how much I had learned when talking to some Scouts from another troop. They had loads of merit badges and had pretty advanced badges. We were just talking about things in general and I realized something big. They did things to get a merit badge or advancement and then they were done with that skill or technique. I had done all of those things they did and more with really no proof in badges or rank. And those things I did was not done just once but multiple times on a regular basis to the point of it being almost second nature. Some of those things are still with me today. Some of my friends are amazed how I can start and keep a fire. Their solution is usually gasoline and lots of it. I saw my former Scout Master years later and thanked him for changing my life.
    So yes. Skills are very important.
    In high school, I also took a Home Ec class. My mom pushed me to take the class. I didn’t want to. I said boys don’t need to sew. Well, that class was worth its weight in gold. I have mended umpteen socks, shirts, and buttons over the years saving me a considerable amount of money. Again, yes, skills count for something.

    1. Good afternoon

      My husband also took Home Ec in high school. He learned how to cook & sew, and oh yeah, he also was slick compared to all his other guy friends because he figured out that taking Home Ec also was a great way to hang out with all the girls!! LOL

      Have a Rockin great day

  5. I like when some one has that “get er’ done” attitude. I know people doubt the effectiveness of masks, and we all parse the percentages of utility. I don’t have any doubts about the usefulness of NO mask. We don’t any of us have a sledge hammer knock out for this virus. But we do have small things we can do that in their totality can bring a considerable measure of prevention to the spread of disease. Same as eating an elephant. One bite at a time. This debate is almost heard as “I want 100% effectiveness, or nothing!”. As is said many times at this site and others, Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. I wear my mask and gloves (I’m old and vulnerable), and I tread lightly and carefully. The constant knowledge of G*d and the assurances from Him of eternal life make me almost fearless. It is a good thing to only fear Him, and it puts everything in perspective. Good on ya, TJ, I love it when a plan comes together.

    1. Your comment is very reasonable. But understand something I learned in my teens. Motorcycle helmets are required and I wore them for years. I have probably 200K miles on a motorcycle and 7 coast to coast trips. Motorcycle helmets both give you confidence in your safety AND dramatically reduce the noise and awareness of speed. At 70 MPH without a helmet your ears are ringing and your facial skin is being buffeted. With a helmet it feels like 55 MPH and you have a desire to go even faster. IMHO the cloth face masks that don’t really prevent you from getting a virus are similar. They give you a false confidence and encourage you to go to Walmart or whatever.

      But my real problem with face masks is the requirement. Yes I have some, my wife made them. When we go shopping I carry it with me in case someone requires it. But I don’t wear it, not out of rebellion but because in addition to knowing that they are ineffective I also know that they can be worse than no mask. That is if you encounter a virus contaminant in the air some of it will probably stick to your where the moist warm environment will be perfect for it to survive. Then when you go home that dirty mask will sit on your kitchen counter or side table waiting for you to touch it again.

      My preferred choice is my wife and I enter a store on off hours, usually 8AM. We don’t get a cart, we touch nothing, she goes to get milk, cream and bread I go to get some meat and fresh veggies. Neither of us get more than we can carry. Then to checkout where we don’t get a bag or use one of our own we pay and carry it out. Not perfect, nothing is perfect.

    2. Well spoke Sean, These comments remind me of one of the questions we had on a written test for prospective welder’s helpers.–The question, “Does a welders helper need to wear a face shield– if he is already ugly?”

    1. I read the article and they used the word “may” 12 times. The masks “may” protect you. Or they may not we don’t really know. It depends. We wouldn’t use them in a hospital to treat a infectious patient but you should use them to go to the store. In fact since we are the government you must use them to even go outside. More constitutional infringement edicts when we get around to it because right now we are having too much fun watching you all jump to our commands. Obey us or the police will arrest you, fine you and take your license to work without any courts or actual law that gives us the authority to do so.

      1. That underscores two points:

        A.) The arbitrary and capricious nature of all governments.

        and,

        B.) The importance of both Separation of Powers and Due Process. (As supposedly still guaranteed by the Constitution.)

      2. Also, I’ve noticed the powers that be never, ever mention that we should be boosting our immune systems now. Think back, have you ever seen anyone on the news talk about building our body’s natural defenses?

        There are many things we can do to help protect our health, including cutting back on sugar and refined foods, drinking plenty of pure water, getting outdoor sunshine and exercise, getting enough sleep, associating when possible with people who are positive rather than a drain on us, keeping our environment clean and pleasant, avoiding too much alcohol and tobacco. Living in a state of fear is not healthy.

      4. May is used because not all fabrics are equal and they didn’t specify. Use wrong fabric and not much protection is gained, use right fabric and more is filtered.

  7. Being able to take care of yourself is fast becoming a lost art. This was just the beginning. A TEST if you will. I advise you all to do more for yourself, like an old timer once told me learn things!

  8. Home Ec was mandatory in junior high school for me. However, mother has already taught me the basics of sewing and cooking. Both my parents taught me the important things in life – how to take care of myself. From hunting and fishing to sewing and cooking. I was truly blessed.

    1. I was required to take it as well, and I had it the same semester that I took introductory carpentry and masonry. I had already been taught a good deal of what we learned in class, but I still learned a great deal of useful information. They were some of the best classes I took in high school.

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