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An home owner can own an appartment and even npt, the appartment is the cave for their famillies and them.
Re: Food
Some folks pile up the guns and ammo, medical gear, radio gear, or whatever, that is good to have if you can afford it, but they are short….FOOD! This is typically the weakness area in most prepper plans, and it could be the Achilles heal that could have easily been avoided. I’m doing my best to drive home the point that, none of your preps can serve you better than food. If you can turn potential threats, unwise neighbors, into assets by simply storing up lots of extra dry staple goods, that cost little in comparision to expensive #10 cans. Those are good to help avoid ‘appetite fatigue’, but only after one has a deep supply for others who refuse to act responsibly. I did not stock the nice yummy expensive stuff until I could take care the many other persons with lots of rice, beans, and wheat. Expensive and very desirable night vision, or other such fantastic force multipliers is very good to have, but if you do not have the minimum man power to defend yourself, what good is it? Most preppers do not have enough help to provide 24/7 security! Food= manpower.
I could get real excited about this topic. Even well balanced, or sensible preppers are short sighted. If you are short some things, but have lots of friends to help, you are not short the most important resource you are gonna need most….friends ! Unless your small number of friends are a team of highly trained and motivated special forces grade solgiers, your are gonna need numbers. There is great advantage with numbers that is hard to substitute.
Charity? Call it enlightened self interest….wisdom. God’s word is wisdom. Don’t fall into the mindset, ‘I got mine, you get yours’. Otherwise your’s could become their’s.
I am poor by most standards, yet I accept that I may have to feed others who are worth millions. They can waste in a weekend, what I could live on for a year. But I might be stuck with them, or need to use a contigence plan. If I did not have the extra, I would not have a contingency, or alternate plan should my much better plan fall apart. Use what the military uses in their planning, PACE (primary, alernative, contingnecy, emergency.)
Without an additional food to locate at least at an alternative location, one is wide open. Have extra for friends to come to you, and for you to go to them. Extra food opens up all kinds of options I’ll leave to your imagination. Food is key. If there is anything you do in excess, it should be food. As the Bible advises, have enough extra to be charitable. I say, very charitable. Get more.
Tunnel Rabbit, yes indeed, “Food is key. If there is anything you do in excess, it should be food”.
There is a huge benefit to folks setting ‘their tribe’ and defining basic rules ASAP. If you wait to come together you tribe will quickly devolve into conflict between the ‘ants’ and the ‘grasshoppers’. Rules could address resources, such as ‘minimum food, ammo etc.). It seems that realistically once a tribe is ‘activated’ resources must be shared. Otherwise a tribe will morph into an Orwellian ‘Animal Farm’ of unequal’s.
The lack of food will easily create conflict between families. There will be disparities. This why we should anticipate that. This is why it is essential to have options. Yes, have a basic understanding, a minimum level, yet I have found that most will under perform. If we see it coming, and restructure our priorities, we can fix a fatal flaw. If there is More than enough food, other problems will be easier to deal with. Real preppers, or anyone that you can trust, are very hard to come by. You may have to work with what you got. If they got something you need, but they lack food, bring food to the table. If all strive to be apart of the solution, there will fewer problems, but sadly most will have an excuse. That is how most people are these days. Again, if this very poor boy can provide, you can provide… Ask God for help, and you will be surprised by the results.
According to my reading of first-person historical accounts, that is the way most people are all these days. Apparently, this is one aspect of human nature, to choose denial and passivity, or as you note TR, excuses, over action.
I appreciate your insights, esp. asking God for help.
Carry on
Always drove older more reliable cars and trucks and saved tons of money over the years working hard at doing what nobody else was willing to do . Get it down to 5 or 6 guys at the top of a very rare field of employment and the bucks roll in while you’re healthy and strong enough to climb a 1000 foot ice covered tower at 30 below with 70 mph winds and fix the German rarity hang up there . Now that I am retired and stocked up for most anything man or nature can throw at me I’m not of a mind to share it with just anyone that pleads gibsmedat . Especially those who have supported the destruction of my country and suckled on the teat of socialism .
Some will be hungry. Some will have food. And some will just eat you once a bullet has found its mark. Food will always be available if you are really hungry… and you hunt for it..
Never under estimate what hungry men will do to live… things that most have never thought of.
If you have a family you HAVE a weakness that can easily be exploited. Just ask randy weaver..
“When you are fed, there are many problems.
When you are hungry, there is one problem.”
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An home owner can own an appartment and even npt, the appartment is the cave for their famillies and them.
Re: Food
Some folks pile up the guns and ammo, medical gear, radio gear, or whatever, that is good to have if you can afford it, but they are short….FOOD! This is typically the weakness area in most prepper plans, and it could be the Achilles heal that could have easily been avoided. I’m doing my best to drive home the point that, none of your preps can serve you better than food. If you can turn potential threats, unwise neighbors, into assets by simply storing up lots of extra dry staple goods, that cost little in comparision to expensive #10 cans. Those are good to help avoid ‘appetite fatigue’, but only after one has a deep supply for others who refuse to act responsibly. I did not stock the nice yummy expensive stuff until I could take care the many other persons with lots of rice, beans, and wheat. Expensive and very desirable night vision, or other such fantastic force multipliers is very good to have, but if you do not have the minimum man power to defend yourself, what good is it? Most preppers do not have enough help to provide 24/7 security! Food= manpower.
I could get real excited about this topic. Even well balanced, or sensible preppers are short sighted. If you are short some things, but have lots of friends to help, you are not short the most important resource you are gonna need most….friends ! Unless your small number of friends are a team of highly trained and motivated special forces grade solgiers, your are gonna need numbers. There is great advantage with numbers that is hard to substitute.
Charity? Call it enlightened self interest….wisdom. God’s word is wisdom. Don’t fall into the mindset, ‘I got mine, you get yours’. Otherwise your’s could become their’s.
I am poor by most standards, yet I accept that I may have to feed others who are worth millions. They can waste in a weekend, what I could live on for a year. But I might be stuck with them, or need to use a contigence plan. If I did not have the extra, I would not have a contingency, or alternate plan should my much better plan fall apart. Use what the military uses in their planning, PACE (primary, alernative, contingnecy, emergency.)
Without an additional food to locate at least at an alternative location, one is wide open. Have extra for friends to come to you, and for you to go to them. Extra food opens up all kinds of options I’ll leave to your imagination. Food is key. If there is anything you do in excess, it should be food. As the Bible advises, have enough extra to be charitable. I say, very charitable. Get more.
Tunnel Rabbit, yes indeed, “Food is key. If there is anything you do in excess, it should be food”.
There is a huge benefit to folks setting ‘their tribe’ and defining basic rules ASAP. If you wait to come together you tribe will quickly devolve into conflict between the ‘ants’ and the ‘grasshoppers’. Rules could address resources, such as ‘minimum food, ammo etc.). It seems that realistically once a tribe is ‘activated’ resources must be shared. Otherwise a tribe will morph into an Orwellian ‘Animal Farm’ of unequal’s.
The lack of food will easily create conflict between families. There will be disparities. This why we should anticipate that. This is why it is essential to have options. Yes, have a basic understanding, a minimum level, yet I have found that most will under perform. If we see it coming, and restructure our priorities, we can fix a fatal flaw. If there is More than enough food, other problems will be easier to deal with. Real preppers, or anyone that you can trust, are very hard to come by. You may have to work with what you got. If they got something you need, but they lack food, bring food to the table. If all strive to be apart of the solution, there will fewer problems, but sadly most will have an excuse. That is how most people are these days. Again, if this very poor boy can provide, you can provide… Ask God for help, and you will be surprised by the results.
According to my reading of first-person historical accounts, that is the way most people are all these days. Apparently, this is one aspect of human nature, to choose denial and passivity, or as you note TR, excuses, over action.
I appreciate your insights, esp. asking God for help.
Carry on
Always drove older more reliable cars and trucks and saved tons of money over the years working hard at doing what nobody else was willing to do . Get it down to 5 or 6 guys at the top of a very rare field of employment and the bucks roll in while you’re healthy and strong enough to climb a 1000 foot ice covered tower at 30 below with 70 mph winds and fix the German rarity hang up there . Now that I am retired and stocked up for most anything man or nature can throw at me I’m not of a mind to share it with just anyone that pleads gibsmedat . Especially those who have supported the destruction of my country and suckled on the teat of socialism .
Some will be hungry. Some will have food. And some will just eat you once a bullet has found its mark. Food will always be available if you are really hungry… and you hunt for it..
Never under estimate what hungry men will do to live… things that most have never thought of.
If you have a family you HAVE a weakness that can easily be exploited. Just ask randy weaver..
“When you are fed, there are many problems.
When you are hungry, there is one problem.”
written by NoPension at Zero Hedge