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  2. I will say, the article in 417 on preppers was one of the better balanced articles I’ve seen in a long while. I live north of Springfield, and can say that the community here is capable of being more self sufficient than the one in Springfield. However, we’re seeing more people move out here, and in the process, bringing their urban problems with them. I worry how it will be over the next five years or so.

  3. It never fails, the city dwellers move out because they don’t like the political atmosphere where they are and then bring that same atmosphere with them. My area is beginning to have more people and all of a sudden there are rules about roadway setbacks for mailboxes and such. Some of it is my fault for being lax in attending County Commision meetings but things had been going well for so long. It just goes to show you need to stay involved as big money makes a difference everywhere. If you see those big fancy houses start going up, get invovled in what’s going on at the meetings.

  4. “privacy protection”

    dude. if tptb check your profiles and see nothing, they’ll just pre-emptively high-priority target you. it’s not about what you do or don’t do, it’s about what they want and how they step on you to get it. hide, don’t hide, it’s all the same to them.

    “if you’ve done nothing wrong then you’ve nothing to hide.”

    they decide when you’ve done something wrong – when, how much, and how bad – to suit themselves.

  5. “the low population density of like-minded folks means preppers and homesteaders get left alone.”

    if this were entirely true then they wouldn’t tell you about it. betcha a dollar to a donut this is nothing more than real estate agents shilling for business.

  6. Great perspective and article. Another thing to consider is that most of what is gotten rid of are not preps, but other clutter. Having a more organized household means it is easier to find your preps and hit the road in a hurry if you need to bug out. Let’s face it, the most likely SHTF for most of us will be relatively personal, local, or regional – fire, flood, wind, chemical spill, or other disaster. The less you leave behind, the less you have lost. Intelligently minimizing your possessions means you spent less and saved more. Barring total economic collapse, in most cases, money is the best prep, once you have survived the initial event.

  7. Hmm. Pet peeves. Fun time.

    Nuclear. 1. New-Clee-er…is the correct version. (Although it’s not a settled issue).

    2. a. nuke-you-lerr

    b. Nu-cu-lar

    c. noo-kyuh-luhr…accepted variant by American dictionaries

    I’m guessing Wranglerstar used 2a or 2b. He went fast and it was hard to catch on my computer. Wikihow continues as follows,

    “In the United Kingdom, the word is pronounced “New-KLEE-ah” with the emphasis on the second syllable. Since we find under Preppers in the Ozarks, the first sentence reading, “Whilst doing some web wandering…”I can’t help wondering if Mr. Latimer wrote it or the person sending it in. Means the same as “while” but died out in the United States but still used in that area where GREAT Britain use to be. Couldn’t resist that. It was from a Pogo cartoon years ago.

    Nevertheless, if you think that is confusing try…Hiroshima…

    Hi-ro-SHI-ma or Hi-ro-shi-ma? Anyway, it reminded me of reading something recently.
    Someone wrote, , “When you’re hit by a car does it matter whether it’s green or red?”

    And for what it’s worth, Jimmy Carter pronounced nuclear as “newkeeuh.” It was all the peanuts.

  8. Let’s call a spade a spade. Virtually all who have used the central government to destroy America and her traditional values have one thing in common. They are city-dwellers. A few assimilate to rural culture but like Kevin Kelly said, most bring their city culture and commie mentality with them.

  10. We’ve lived in the Ozarks for 18 years, and been into the prepping lifestyle for the past 15. This is indeed a very good place for preppers, conservative government, no CCW required, lots of inexpensive land and low taxes.

    Over the years we’ve met several of the people mentioned in the 417 article, even going to Finelli’s “meetups” for a couple years. I’m afraid the conspiracy theorists, including Finelli, killed our interest in any more meetups.

    That, and remembering during our last attendance two young men who didn’t fit the demographic of the group came in and listened for about an hour. Then proceeded to the parking lot to take pictures of all the car’s plates.

  11. You may want to look at land in Northern Missouri, too. St. Jo has a lot of the same advantages as Springfield, but it is less recognized. Land is different, flatter, very different (loess) soils. Believe me, some of those Ozark hills have almost no soils for garden, much less farm. So, if you don’t see what you’re looking for in Southern Missouri, cast your eyes north of I-70.

  12. Sometime ago, a few years after my discharge from the Marine Corps, I took some time to visit a friend near Springfield. I also spent a few weeks at Eastwind Community, featured in this 417 article: https://www.417mag.com/issues/september-2016/inside-east-wind-tecumsehs-intentional-community/

    These folks have a lot in common with many of us. They mind their own business and work hard. At the same time, their lifestyle probably is not a fit for most folks. I left after two weeks. Of course, the lifestyle in the Redoubt is a poor fit for most folks. I guess we like it that way.

    Carry on.

  14. We came to the Ozarks 30 years ago from the people’s Republic of California. Its pretty easy to get off the beaten path around here and for the most part the area is very conservative (which translates in the sane). Think “better” not perfect. Self reliance has been the cultural mindset here for 150 years, so it’s an easy fit.

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