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A most excellent explanation between the two. I look forward to the rest of this article.
This is a great start to an article. You define things well and I like how you ask questions to demonstrate that you are thinking critically. Have you considered how and what food you store in relation to the seasons and food available through hunting, fishing, forging?
forging = foraging. 🙂
Muddy kid, thanks for the positive comments on the article. I don’t normally consider hunting and foraging as viable in a TEOTWAWKI scenario. Given how many un-prepared people there are natural food sources will not last long. I also make the assumption that whatever caused the TEOTWAWKI event may very well impact plant and animal life as well. That isn’t to say We won’t do it but I certainly do not assume it as a way to ensure food my family’s stomachs. Consider a TEOTWAWKI event that release radioactive contamination. This more than likely will contaminate the wild food sources (and much of agriculture as well). I have several raised beds that I plan to tarp to lessen the ammount of contamination. We also have wild foods such as blackberries, rose hips, etc. that grow wild at the BOL. Instead of hunting I have several live traps that I plan on setting up (depending on circumstances). Hunting takes time, trapping allows us to better use our time and in my opinion increases our chances of actually obtaining food since we can cover more area with several traps. Just my two cents. Again thanks for the positive comments.
Great point about trapping! I do disagree about the common misconception that natural foods will not last long, however. I guess that all depends on the scenario, but absent of nuclear contamination, even a modern experienced hunter is only successful when they have feed, stands, the latest and greatest camo, scent blocker, cameras, and all the gadgets that turn subsistence hunting into sport. People that have little to no experience in sport hunting will be relying entirely on luck. And people that sport hunt may not fare well absent of their gadgets. I look forward to tomorrows article.
Muddykid, I hope you’re not placing the skills of a ‘sport’ hunter (around here we call em trophy hunters) over the local ‘subsistence’ hunter. (ie, poacher, to the wildlife cops) whom will be well experienced in taking game quietly (deer and hogs with a suppressed .22lr) and already have a market in place. There’s no comparison.
Absolutely not. My point was that sport hunters may not be worth their shinny cammy’s without their gadgets. I agree, there is no comparison.
Makes sense. I am far more prepared for SHTF than TEOTWAWKI. Due to the nature of my current situation, the latter is not so practical to prep for. Ergo, a big part of my TEOTWAWKI preps involve contingency and acquisition post-event; not at all desirable, but an unavoidable consequence. In truth, my SHTF preps have bled into more long term than what would normally be expected, more as a result of lacking true TEOTWAWKI response capabilities. For some things, such as food, ammo, and an indefinite energy source, I am well equipped for TEOTWAWKI, but for things like water, long distance transport, agriculture, and a fortified perimeter, I am woefully underprepared. It will take some serious changes in my accommodations that I simply cannot execute at this time to overcome those shortfalls.
Alas, I am a bit of a slave to my chosen career path. I’ve tried to escape it a few times, but they keep pulling me back in. Were I single, it wouldn’t be such an issue, but the wife has been increasingly high maintenance, so here I am. Much as I hate to admit it, my situation would vastly improve were she to expire or just plain leave. ‘Twould break my heart, but them’s the facts of it.
Try plugging her into women at the church. Also pray with her asking God to give you wisdom on how to prepare your family for the future. Then bring up prepping at a later prayer session. A woman should be able to cook, sew, shoot a gun, and skin their game. High maintenance girls are usually nice to look at (by everyone) hence the games they play which isn’t conducive to married life or a godly walk.
Will be praying for as God hates divotce.
3ADscout,
I have appreciated your comments on this site over the past year and am glad to see you sharing through this series.
Yes, we often get in the mind trap of thinking we have to acquire something of literally everything, but where does that end? I was blessed by God in having been reared in an agricultural background and rural and wilderness living as well as back-country recreation. So I have personally learned the basics of farming and food production since childhood. The relative well-being of a family unit is first predicated on it’s food production. And next, based on what resources it has to exchange for what it needs.
Yes, keep a BOB/GHB prepared, but put priority on maximizing family productivity. So for food security, people need to have food production capability- from start to finish. If you raise animals, have the entire food chain capability at your fingers- from feed to butchering and preserving. Get smart in meat production, and get involved in local community networks. Volunteer to help 4H clubs and FFA.
Get several resupplies of greenhouse materials to build hoop houses over growing beds (ours blew down in a windstorm, and sun degrades it over time, others have had snowfall rip it), or dig and build a wallipini, make your greenhouse twice as big as you think you should. You will be glad you did.
Stock up on those basic elements which store well, and are scarce. Salt, sugar, mineral supplements and fertilizers, tarps, rolls of plastic sheeting, lots of duct tape, etc. Learn to store gasoline for years at a time.
Learn to do something specialized that will be useful to others, and get basic supplies and tools for that specialty. Make biodiesel, distill alchohol, make soap from basic on-hand items, grow flax and make linen, learn solar panel/electrician basics. But whatever you do, learn and practice that skill now. Become proficient and become known locally.
I appreciate being a gray man, and understand those who are concealing their earthly wealth with OPSEC and site security. But if TEOTWAWKI hits, it means life must go on and your local community is more than critical to your personal survival.
Wheatley,
Thank you for the kind compliments. A greenhouse is on the “to do list”. In the mean time I was planning on building some cold frames. Not as useful but better than nothing at this time. We are planning on moving to our BOL permanently next summer. Animals are high on our list. I have experience with goats, chickens and rabbits but will be trying our hand at pigs and perhaps a cow. The neighbor has cows, chickens and pigs. He is expanding the number of cows he is keeping. Hoping he will sell me a calf next year or he will be able to point me in the right direction.
I’m not a Bushcrafter type but there are a lot of good skills that they have. We just took down two pines to make way for a new pole barn and harvested a good amount of pine resin. My son thought my joy of collecting a jar of “skicky sap” was over done. Then I explained. Took a dried dead line stick that was full of resin and lit it like a birthday candle, he quickly understood the value. My wife yells at me for buying bulk salt since I’m on a low sodium diet. I explained it is needed for other things besides eating. I made my own white wash last year with salt. Considering how difficult it was and how valuable it was it is very wise to stock up now while it is plentiful and cheap. I love those “free” traps from Harbor Freight and tool. Have 3 plastic totes just with various sizes of tarps, but one is just the “free” ones. Rolls of plastic – ditto.
Interesting comment about growing flex. I was thinking for linseed oil. Another useful substance.
Nice thing about living out at BOL is nobody really thinks “prepper” when seeing orchards, animals, shooting, solar, etc.
Concerning animals. They have to be fed too. Unless you live in the south chickens will need feed in the winter. The idea that you just get some animals and are all set is at best simplistic and not realistic. They all need care. Rabbits might be the easiest to raise but their meat isn’t a complete protien. I think chickens are a good idea but you should keep in mind they need feed , shelter and they take 5 months to mature. Left on their own they set and hatch out chicks once a year. Many of the modern breeds won’t go broody. Regular breeds don’t produce a lot of meat per chicken . these are some things to keep in mind if you choose to have animals.
I wish to respectfully correct a couple of misconceptions. First, rabbit meat is a complete protein, just too low in fat to be a good choice as one’s only survival meat. Second, chickens are typically butchered ate 5-7 weeks of age. They do not start laying eggs until 5-6 months of age.
It is common to butcher the “meat” type of chickens at 8 weeks. We like to wait until 10 to 12 weeks as we get more meat for our investment. This year we got both our layers and meat chickens at the same time. We butchered at 12 weeks due to a death in our family. The layers were at best 2/3 s grown. You really wouldn’t get a lot of meat off of them. When we have butchered out our regular sized hens (there are larger ones) i got less than a quart baggie of meat after it was cooked down and deboned. Also as far as i know from reading about the past , it was common to butcher the newest roosters after they got bigger as about half the chickens you hatch out will be roosters and you don’t need many of them.
Very well stated, it reinforces my continued collecting of nails, screws, bolts, drills, nuts, duct tapes, etc — hand tools people and the strength to use them — stay healthy and press on. Looking forward to additional installments.
Corvus,
When you can’t tell the difference between your garage and Lowes or Home Depot you know your doing good!!! I as a rule always buy extra when picking up hardware for a project. I also like picking up hardware at used stores/flea markets/garage sales. People don’t realize the value and put a dollar or two on a whole big box. One of the last big lots I picked up most of the hardware was old and made in America!!! Priceless!! Don’t forget Wire/cable.
Good to see you write an article 3ADScout!
I agree with your distinction between the two scenarios.
Looking forward to Part 2.
If you are in a rural area, agricultural area like I am, watch the farm and estate auctions. the auction company will put the tractors, equipment and vehicles in his flyer or ad. Go walk around during the sale and look in the barns, etc. I have purchased literally ten pickup loads of hardware, old tools cans and bottles of all sorts of automotive fluids and old car parts for ten bucks or less. In ONE auction..They just want it gone and are happy to add it to the auction. I have done very well with that plan.
One way to conserve and utilize all the value of your meat — purchased, raised, trapped, or hunted — is to boil the bones, and cook the bone broth into soups, chili, or rice.
I have been buying books on every subject that might be useful. I buy them pennies on the dollar through when I can. Many people get rid of books because that can look up anything they want right now on the internet. But what happens if we can’t do that any more? Or have now power and the lights go out. I have found medical books, auto repair books, hunting books. survival skills books, cooking and canning books, how things work books, repair books, gardening books, how to raise different kind of livestock books etc. etc. etc…. I have a 20 foot sea container full of anything you want to know full of books. I have seven containers full of my preps. The only problem is, is that it would cost me thousands of dollars to bring them down from our place in Alaska to where we are living now. lol I love Alaska but can’t take the rain so much anymore. It get up to 200 inches of rain there and where we live now it’s only around 38 inches a year. We live in the Garden of Eden now with 70 acres and can grow our own food and have a river along our property to fish from etc… We have found a perfect place for us and hope too get things ready here for your kids to come back here when things get really bad. Most of my kids are getting skills that will help them, I just wish we had more time. I feel that time is running out. The hour glass is running out of sand. I also wish I was 20 years younger. We only got our farm last year and it need so much work. I’m 65 years old and am working around here like a man of 30 years old. I work outside several hours a day trying to get a handle on this place and then have to do the other chores inside the house like any other women has to do, cooking and cleaning etc, etc… I’m not complaining because this is what I’ve always wanted. This place is whipping me in shape. lol. I’m over 76 % disabled but with that I can work as hard as anyone else, man or women. I cut down weeds with poison oak for T-shirt on, well I got splattered with poison oak oil from the plant, I didn’t know it at the time but soon found it out later. I took a shower and wash but that wasn’t enough. I learned the hard way what to do now, but It’s been two weeks now that I have had to put up with the pain. So I’m learning the hard way but I hope to poison the poison oak and cut it down and protect myself a lot better as I learn to work on getting rid of it. I’m working on a garden and my husband likes to help with that when he can after he get home from work. It’s a full time job, I wish I had three more of me but it is what it is and I’m blessed to have this opportunity to learn and grow as our Father in Heaven would have me do. May we all keep our sights on the real plan that He has for us. May God bless our efforts and may we all keep joy in our hearts no matter what may come our way.
Scout, there are 61 nuclear powerplants in the US with a total of just under 100 reactors. Most are located on waterways, so there is water available in the event of a power outage, and the managers only have to move the water to the reactor core or cooling pool. If the majority of managers are successful, the meltdown scenarios will be limited. I’ve been in contact with the Continuity of Operations planner at a major nuclear provider, and they are aware of the threats from EMP and CME and are continuously revising their plans to handle either. I suspect that nuclear and hydro power will be key to reconstitution of the power grid in the event of either an EMP or CME.