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  1. I know you’ll get a lot of these, but if you’d at all be interested in Western NC, I know of one very private 16 acres, mostly hard wood ,gravity water, with what I, and a few friends I’ve shown it to, think is the worlds most comfortable, small 2 story “hippie” cabin, at a very decent price. It’s in Green mountain, at Burnsville. If interested, I think I can get you some pics, or at least the Lat/Long so you could spy on it, and more details. Good luck, and God Bless, Marv the mountain man..

  2. I fled Connecticut 5 years ago , and fled western Massachusetts before that to relocate to NC.

    NC and parts of SC are being invaded by liberal northerners, mostly university “educated” and white collar, who wish to bring the liberal, progressive cancer with them.

    Charlotte (and it’s huge surrounding suburban sprawl), Asheville, triad, Greensboro, NC, etc……even the Greenville, SC and surrounding areas are being invaded due to lots of high tech jobs being created there, bringing the over “educated” liberals with them……slowly transforming (destroying) the conservative culture.

    Hope I am not sounding too harsh, but I have lived in two Democrat-run liberal cesspools, and having moved to NC, I can see the slow transformation happening.

    To me, it’s really the difference between city folk and country folk, and university educated white collar folk and blue collar folk, that really reveals the difference in mindset.

    With that being said, Western NC is very nice, but, PLEASE do not allow any of the anti God, anti Constitutional mindset to follow you down here.

    1. Yes, I figured that out from my trips to NC. I decided I might as well stay in VT where I have friends and family; we’ve got the same ultra liberal contingent up here as well. In both places there are of course others that are more old-time VT(or NC).

      1. I hear you. I just got back from the tristate area in southern VT western MA and NY. My cabin I lived in near Pownal VT had been purchased by some college alums just one month earlier I learned from the real estate agent as I walked into her office. I was amazed that she knew about this all but abandoned place on 49 acres. With a heavy heart I returned to Asheville NC where I have lived for 3 yrs and also looking at zillow for places near Burnsville. I make a few SOTAs with my ham radio to nearby Mt Mitchell. Stuck here in Asheville for two more years, by the time I get “unstuck” I’ll be too old to make relocation worthwhile. No family. No friends, just my almost 16 yr old daughter who will take off as soon as she turns 18, unless she realizes her dad was right all along, and borrowing to pay for college is probably a career death sentence tgese days, guranteed to enslave her in debt for the rest of her life, not to mention the costs of apt living, car, insurance, etc.

    2. Paul wrote, “it’s really the difference between city folk and country folk, and university educated white collar folk and blue collar folk, that really reveals the difference in mindset.” Can I hear an ‘Amen!’

      Those distinctions are absolutely fundamental. Priority #1 should be ‘whom we will be with’, not ‘what will we have’. If you have friends and family who are country men and women, you have a foundation to build upon. Think twice before moving away from them.

      1. I wouldn’t paint with too broad of brush strokes. Much of our outlook comes from more than our education or lack thereof. I know many college educated conservative preppers. And, I know many blue collar, union supporting liberals. It cuts both ways…

        “Where” you receive your degree probably has more influence as well as your upbringing. People graduating from Hillsdale College are much more likely to be conservative than those graduating from UC Santa Cruz. Of course, how you think also dictates where you will study.

        1. Jake, have you built ‘teams’?

          For example, let’s say you had to build two teams, each just as important as the other. One team would compete in hunting for wild game. The second team would compete in painting pictures of wild game.

          Would you search for members of both teams in similar geographical locations, with similar educations and backgrounds?

          1. Yes, I would. I know people who can hunt, carve, and paint. And they come from a variety of backgrounds. It is dangerous to make assumptions. Book covers can be very deceptive.

  3. I enjoyed reading your article very much, eagerly look forward to the next installment.
    Fifty some years ago, after being honorably discharged from the Military, and having served in a tropical climate (‘Vam), I realized after returning to northern New England where I grew up, I didn’t care for cold winters and everything that goes with it, so without further ado, leaving family and friends, I headed as far south in the USA as I could, and settled in the Florida Keys. (Leaving family was no problem for me, as they derided me for going to Vietnam and called me a fool for doing so.)
    I never looked back nor regretted the move. I now have a very comfortable and self-sufficient life, surrounded by family and friends.
    I commend you on your goals, and wish you success. Never, ever, give up !

    1. WarVet, what a great story. I love hearing of Americans exercising Liberty. It sounds like you made that move at the perfect stage of your life. While you were moving as far south that you could go, my family was moving as for north (Maine) as we could go.

      And the Florida Keys? Wow… Montana is awesome but I still have salt water in my blood. I practically grew up on a boat (RI and Maine). The Keys are a fishing and boating paradise. If the Schumer hits the fan you have some unique options.

  4. Excellent! I relate to the financial constraints of looking for a perfect location, and having to work at least part time. We have three children, one in law school, one finishing college next spring, and our last homeschooler will also be done next spring. We love it out west but need to be here about a year or so longer. We’ve considered buying a simple camper-RV type trailer (would have to sleep 6) to hook up to our truck, maybe live in temporarily until we can go where we want. We own our home. It’s in a sellable area, but we really want to sell before values go down. It would be hard to leave our almost .5 acre we garden on. It’s just really helpful how the last two articles are focused on challenges of relocation. Praying so hard for God to direct each of our paths and decisions. I can tell you, the liberal agenda in our area is becoming so prevalent, I haven’t felt at home here for some time now–a stranger in a foreign land, so to speak. A move cannot come soon enough. Thank you for your article.

    1. Deb,

      I think a lot of us are being direct to areas where we will be safe and perhaps be part of something bigger. I was a 100% “ain’t bugging out no matter what” type of prepper. Thought it foolish to leave and become a nomad. One day out of the blue that changed and we bought a camp/retirement/BOL home. A change in philosophy usually takes a monumental incident to happen. On top of the change in philosophy I then had a medical issue that we had to deal with. It would have made more sense to sell the camp/BOL and stay in town but we didn’t do that either. We made the decision to leave the city for a life that would be more challenging. I had been thinking we need to leave the city and I compromised. I had a major life altering medical issue and boom we moved. (Guess I should have listened). All this Wouldn’t mean anything if it was just us but when you listen people are doing it all over. And like myself, many feel that they were guided to make that move. When I get that “spidy sense” I listen to to it now. I don’t have to know why but I have learned to put my trust in Him and I will not be harmed. I don’t gamble, I’m too good at math and statistics. I’m at the local convenience store where I get my coffee M-F and I realize I forgot my wallet at home. No big deal I got a ten dollar bill for just this type of scenario stashed away. I get it and go into the store to get my coffee. I’m standing in line and the sun suddenly shines through the window and blinds me and I look away only for my eyes to land on the lottery sign. No way am I going to waste what is left of the ten dollar bill on the lottery when I’ll need it for lunch. It was like a magnet pulling me towards those stupid lottery machines and before you know it, stupid me put not $1 in the machine but $3. I won $11. So I had lunch money. Amazing. We just got to realize what we are hearing and put trust in Him, and it will all work out.

  5. We’ve lived on a mountainside in western NC for four years now. I’d recommend it. We came here from coastal NC and, before that, the places where my job took us: the NYC area and outside Detroit. We don’t regret for a minute where we live, on a side road off a side road. We do understand that we won’t ever be one of the locals because we weren’t raised here, and we aren’t kin. That’s just the way mountain people are, and we don’t mind that at all. Everybody’s friendly. Ironically, the only people we’ve ever had a hard time with are the smug, self-righteous, virtue signalling, educated progressives who have moved here from their blue enclaves and who try to force their socialist beliefs on the rest of us.

  6. One way or another, we cannot do this alone. Have a plan to be with family and friends, whether you go to them, or they come to you. Have provisions stocked up at their location, and have them store supplies at your place. Or prepare your retreat to provide for family, even if they refuse to be responsible for themselves. Having an excess of supplies can sustain your own army that may not include family. Most simply will not stock up enough. Budget this in.

    This give one options, at least a ‘primary’, and then an ‘alternative’ plan. Security will be job one. Defensible terrain is key in this. Can we secure ourselves during a worst case, or during a less than a worst case scenario? Without others to keep watch and defend the property that would sustain you, even in a less than worst case scenario, one could be at greater risk alone, than if in a worst case scenario should the retreat be located in defensible terrain, and by loyal family and friends… I could be in the ‘big city’ making a ‘decent’ living, yet I choose to live somewhat like a pioneer with next to nothing, yet I have everything I actually need. Needs and ‘wants’ are different things.

    I live outside the fast rising Beast System already, and my life will change less than most when this country falls apart. I will not miss as much as most will. In the process we also develop the necessary mind set. Learning to live on almost no income, is an art and discipline. It is something that is best learned during the relative good times. Also choose a retreat that can also become self sufficient as conceivable, as soon as possible. There will be few opportunities to make a living in the future. Practical skills, provisions, and equipment will count.

  7. Well Mrs. AK, I’ve lived in SC, GA, MO and MI. I know live in TN. Some counties in TN have few code restrictions. Where my BOL is, we have two that are state mandated, electric and septic. The septic has to be approved first before “permanent” electric will be approved. There is a way around that too. Otherwise you can build your house out of Popsicle sticks if you want. Each county is different. Where BOL is is small town with a few amenities, but finding land off the beaten path is not too hard.

    Where I live currently in TN has strict codes and can be as bad as living up North, with their busy bodies and such. Since my career allows for 100% remote work, that is what I’m trying to do. Move to BOL, where I can even get fiber internet for my work.

  8. Have you considered Indiana? Lots of rural areas, small towns, not as expensive as East Coast states. Corn, soybeans, wheat, to name a few, grow well here, and most people have vegetable gardens and/or fruit trees. Chickens, goats, and dairy cows are popular livestock. In Amish country, add horses as well. Lots of local small businesses. Politically the state is conservative once you avoid South Bend, Gary, and Indianapolis.Cold weather (45 degrees daytime) sets in around Nov. 1st each year, but the snow months are Dec., Jan., and Feb., with a couple of inches on the ground by January. Occasionally it will snow in early March. The southern part of the state is hilly with low level mountains closer to the KY state line. Cheer for the local high school basketball team to do well. Life in the small towns revolves around the school. I returned to Indiana after 30 years away after college.

  9. You might also look at what the tax situation is where ever you go. I remember people in the military wishing they could change their state of residence from Virginia because of all the taxes Va took from them. Also be careful of North Carolina. My Brother lives there and I would HATE to pay some of their stupid taxes. NC is considered to be the Mass. of the South because of their taxes. You might want to consider Eastern Tn in the Appalachian Mts. Have a friend there back in the woods who loves it.

    What others have said about the folks moving from the NE into other areas and changing it is true. I have seen it in two different places in the same state. Was stationed outside Key West and saw so many people from the North move in, and after about six months they start complaining and want more of what they left behind. Now living in N Fl and seeing people move in from NE and South Fl. And again after about six months these same folks complain that they want it to be more like where they came from. My response is “If you want what you had back there, GO HOME! Mostly because I really like the way it is here.” And I am originally from the NE. But I learned a long time ago that I didn’t know squat about things, so when I move somewhere new I would shut my mouth and listen to the locals to see how things actually work here.

    Sorry to talk so long, so will say goodbye.

  10. Since you are looking/living in Vermont, consider New Hampshire next door – no income tax and no sales tax. Demographics I think is a key variable and VT NH Maine would be a fair option in northeastern US scandanavia (ME to MD). Best of luck and God Bless!

  11. I grew up and lived most of my life on the east coast. I have since moved to the west coast, leaving family and friends. I have not regretted it. I put myself in hock to buy a tavern, and got married, ( now deceased.) I sold the tavern at a profit, bought my house on 2 1/2 acres. I now have my step daughter and her hubby living with me. I put on an addition for them. I do lots of volunteering, and help out my only 4 neighbors on my block. Two of them have severe medical issues.
    I am proud to say I am a prepper. I teach a class in preparedness every other Saturday.
    Would you be surprised at how many people of the younger generation think that being prepared is having enough groceries in the house to last a week? From paycheck to paycheck.
    I rotate all my foodstuff, and only buy what I use, not what’s on sale. I own guns, as most of my neighbors, and have enough food and water to last at least 6 months. My step daughter and her hubby think the men in white coats should take me away. They sure like the food/water I have stocked, and use it quite frequently. I grew up on the poorer side of the street, and went hungry as a child. Maybe that is why I like grocery shopping so much. Most women I know go shopping for clothes, shoes, and purses.
    I grow a garden, and do lots of canning. Nothing quite as satisfying.
    I grew up with a mother and aunt that went through the depression, and lived on an 800 acre farm in PA. I learned from an early age to can, dry, and store foods. I am so grateful for that experience. I am now 75 yrs old, and enjoy life to it’s fullest. I travel twice a year, mostly by myself, and now have a ‘boyfriend” to travel with sometimes.
    This is just a comment of what I do for preparedness

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